LOL welcome to the forum!
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Welcome to the group. I just finished my first dry/cure this weekendā¦I like it.
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How are you still liking it?
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Im looking at getting one here in a couple of weeks and experience from using it would be awesome to learn from
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Yeah , well yeah you certainly helped to stir it 
on one hand Iām glad that this helped you make up your mind . Congrats and welcome to the cannatrol fam . Iām sure youāll love it and if you have any questions hit me up . Iāll probably be a member here til the end of this grow .
But on the other hand that freaking burns my a$$! 
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I do have a question.
I just finished my dry cycle on my first full capacity cannatrol run. Just now. Soā¦ I put 1/2oz into a 1/2oz grove bag with a hygrometer and a 1/2oz into a mason jar with a hygrometer. Theyāre sitting in my basement around 58 to 60 degrees fahrenheit and I have an inkbird controller keeping my humidity around 61%.
I guess Iām testing it for myself. Iām going to do two more runs one in a jar, the other in a grove bag in four days when the cure cycle has completed.
Iām curious how yāall store your flower when you donāt have room in your cannatrol?
Example scenario. You have more than can fit in the cannatrol. So you chop 1/2 of it and put it in the cannatrolā¦ and then you wait for the bottom canopy to finish. Then you chop it and need to move your dried/cured cannabisā¦ would you put it in jars? When? After the dry cycle? After the cure cycle? How many days do you dry?
Actually, any insight would be awesome. Iād love to hear what everyone else uses their Cannatrol for.
Iāve found that 72 hours on the dry cycle and your flowers get to be about the perfect water activity/moisture content to heat/pressure extract flower rosin.
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I like it as well. This is my first full run. I did chop about an ounce off of my plant about 10 days early just so I could get a practice run in. It dried and cured really well. It smokes incredibly. Very smooth. Iām a pack a day smoker for twenty years, so I hack and hack and hack, but I genuinely found it to be a very smooth smoke. THOUGH!!! I donāt really like the end of the bowls as muchā¦ but maybe thatās just my bud? Or maybe because I smoked the 5 grams that I didnāt end up smashing pretty quick and didnāt give it a chance to actually, fully break down the chlorophyll which can take UP TO 30 days. I stuck it in a grove bag when I needed the space for the real deal (current full capacity run), and WOW! My bud really started to get potent. This is my second harvest, and Iām already a lot happier with my flower than I was when I hang dried and half-ass cured my other plants. I was so pumped that I grew my own that I was giving it out to people so I didnāt even have a chance to cure. I just smoked it all.
Itās good to hear that people are having good experiences with it. It really helps to quash the doubt I have/had about the product, but, ofcourse, Iāve only just begun.
Thanks for the welcome!
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Just wanted to share some of my pictures.
This is ILGM Runtz, and the wax is some of the most flavorful I have ever had.
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@elbarto My experience is very similarā¦using Grove bags to hold the first batch while a second was in the Cannatrol. I love the taste and smell once the bud is cracked open, but agree it is still a little āfreshā.
My plan is to put everything I have back in the Cannatrol on hold until I consume itā¦my understanding is it continues to get better.
I do have a batch that was dried on racks and is curing in Grove bagsā¦I am going to use it as a comparison to the batch I did in the Cannatrolā¦I cure for 8 weeks when using Grove bags so I have awhile before I can test.
Good growing
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So my first ever grow was 2.75 pounds and I was in a little studio apartment and had no way to reach and maintain the 60)60 . So what I did was ran a quick default run put into grove bags , did another run , and then another and put the almost 3 dried pounds all back in to finishing curing together .
So basically I do a complete wet trim and stuff thd machine as much as I can without stacking buds and or having to force them in between each other . Your buds can touch a bit but just down squish them in kinda thing . Now I had some big fat and dense ones weighing 1/2 ounces that something like that you kind of want to give at least a little cu$t hair width in between. But set it for a 5 day dry and then take out and put into grove or turkey bags . If you start harvesting when your trichromes are cloudy you should be able to get a few runs before your lower buds get to much amber . But when you dry them they shrink . So put it all back in together and set it for a 10 day cure in default temp and dewpoint setting and then I let it sit right there on the shelves to its sold . But itās after the 10 day cure when I start giving samples but itās also not quite as ready as it will be the longer it cures the better itās going to get . So yeah if you want to put in jars or paper bags then thatās what you want to do . Or if you want to put it in jars and grove bags outside of the machine then I donāt understand why people do that but to each their own . If Iām paying 1700 hundred f-ing dollars for something Iām going to use it for what itās purpose is for which is dry , cuts , and keep right till I decide to pull it out . And yeah I leave my stuff directly on the shelves !
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What climate do you store your grove bags in?
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I also wanted to update everyone on my experiment. I stopped it. I used a moisture meter on my buds at the time and they were almost 30% at the stem. I didnāt want to ruin an ounce of bud so I put them back in the cannatrol.
After 5 days, 8 hours and 30 minutes in the machine on its default setting the moisture is around 18%. So theyāre still dying even as they cure. Grove bags find that 11% is ideal for storage.
I think Iām measuring in the correct spot.
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I keep them in the cure zone 60 - 70F Humidity depends on what time of year it is hereā¦40% - 60%.
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After 2 1/2 days in the cure cycle my buds have reached 11% moisture. Iāve got 1/2oz in a grove bag and Iām going to wait at least 6 hours to see what the humidity settles at.
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It has maintained 64% humidity. Slightly worrisome. I think itāll be fine.
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When I use Grove bags to cure, I put them in a little wetter than most 12 - 13%. The humidity starts a little high but then the Grove bags do their magic and expels extra moisture. I do not worry about anything 65% or less
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Iām tempted to crack one open, but I think a little more patience will pay off. I still have some flower from the second cycle in the cannatrol.
Anyway, I found a youtube video about doubling your dry/cure cycle with the cannatrol on Youtube, so Iām interested to see how that goes.
Also, on a completelyl different note, he has a nugsmasher XP that he is giving away at 5,000 subscribers.
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Thanks for the video link. I will do what he suggests on the next harvest. I am running a test between the Canntrol and traditional drying and then curing in Grove bags and curing for 8 weeks. I had two Gorilla Ice Cream plants so am using it for the tests. Still have a couple weeks.
I will say that while I am watching the Grove bag sit thereā¦I am already smoking the Cannatrol weedā¦and it is great!
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I finished my test of using the Cannatrol Cool Cure to dry and cure vs the traditional method of drying on racks and then curing for 8 weeks in Grove bags. I started with 2 Gorilla Ice Cream plants from the same batch or seedsā¦I realize clones or using the same plant would have made the test better. Both plants grew in the same tent with the same training/feeding/etc. I wet-trimmed them.
Cannatrol says it dries and cures in 8 days. It is true if you are using the definition of cure as making the buds shelf stable (0.6 water activity level). At 8 days they looked and smelled wonderful, and the taste was very goodā¦but there was a āfreshā taste to it. It got better as I left them in the Cannatrol on the hold settingā¦basically an extended cure.
I did a blind test with two people.
Look of the buds ā They both looked great, but the Cannatrol buds looked fresher and had brighter colors. Unanimous Winner: Cannatrol
Smell out of the bag ā The buds from the Grove bag were perceived to smell better. The Cannatrol buds did not smell like muchā¦maybe water vapor. Unanimous Winner: Grove Bags
Feel of buds ā The Grove bag buds has a sticky resinous feelā¦perceived as better than the soft pliable Cannatrol buds that were not sticky. Unanimous Winner: Grove Bags
Smell of Bud when broken open ā Both buds were strong and pungent and had great smell. The Cannatrol buds had a more robust scent. Unanimous Winner: Cannatrol
Taste of the smoke ā Both were good smoke, smoothā¦no hay or grass tasteā¦nice terpene profiles. The Cannatrol bud was perceived to be a significantly better tasting smoke. Lots of flavor on the inhale and a nice after taste. Unanimous Winner: Cannatrol
In the end, I produced a much better product using the Cannatrol vs traditional drying and Curing in Grove bags.
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Love the detailed analysis. But as u said, i get vastly different results plant to plant, same seed pack. Hindsight, maybe split the same plant in half for most accurate test.
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