@Nicky right the hps lights are at 600w and the led lights at are 100%, i just raised them all but when i last went in the girls were all like praying and looking good also taking some serious water too. im as happy as they look lol. thankyou
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No problem.
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@whatbuddyboy thatās the sweetspot in spectrum . Over lapping is where one light fixtures omitting angles of light will cross over into the next light angles . This is called over lapping intervals , where the lights spectrum is crossing each other which creates much more light intensity when the two lights cross and mix as they shine and angle over the plants canopy .
I hope that made sense , but you definitely getting the formality of things and @whatbuddyboy Iām not trying to tell you how are what to do here , Iām only trying to enlightened your creativity to capitalize on all the lights so itās no shadow are shaded spots for larfy airy lower buds . Only if you had a netting are a castnet you can tack up as a scrog screen lol 
, I hope you are aware of the stretching will be insane with the HPS , so are you planning to cropped them sideways and build a webbing of netting to help control the stretch ? It will be a Hugh room full of some heavy bud breaking stalks once they get half way into blooming , crazy huge buds but they also going to want to stretch like woah with the uv in hps , fair warning to have a plan in case !
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@yoshi fistly im more than happy to be told what to do at this stage in the learning process i think ill do far better listening to you guys. I fully understand the over lapping now although i didnt at first so ill rectify that today. i do have a scrog net the only thing is i have to take the plants to the bath room to water to run off. i did a scrog befor but it was in hydroponics. if i was to do a scrog do you think i would manage with some run off trays and thanks again i realise im taking up some of your time these days
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the picture you have sent me shows the lights a good five foot from the canopy. now i have watched plenty off videos and they all kinda said have the lights close to the plants but all the big grows ive seen the lights are way off so what is best
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The netting you have is a trellis netting.
Look into how to make pvc scogās each plant should get its own scog, because once the plant grows into the net you wonāt get it out of it.
Letās. Move future questions to your grow journal @whatbuddyboy
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[quote=āNicky, post:248, topic:64987ā]
pvc scogās each plant should get its own scog,
[/quote] can you send a pic and link and ill move to journal
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Tag me in there and Iāll work on it yeah
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not scrogging here but learned SIMILAR lesson about āwonāt get it out of itā 
I had used bent over metal coat hangar to LST my ladies outside over. Amy Lee, my biggest, i saw yesterday EMBEDDED the radius curve of the metal, into the stalk and has nearly grown over it!!! oops! need to keep better eye on that and loosen their grip a little. lessons learned 
not choking her or anything but COULD i imagine
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A Lil copper wonāt hurt lol
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Trying to dial all this in.
Is 21.38 dli a little much for early veg.? Thatās @18h, dropping to 16hrs is Still 19.01
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This is what I was looking for, thanks
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These 2 sites help tell u how much and calculate ur DLI donāt know the rule about posting links but think information links are good if I messed up my bad, sorry hope this helps
https://. growlightmeter. com/. calculator/
https://. www.waveformlighting. com/horticulture/daily- light-integral-dli- calculator
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Thanks, I saved them both just in case
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Pretty useful tool Calibrated, picked my blue/red LED (blurple), and according to that theyāre falling perfectly within range of DLI for the Olsen Twins (which i could tell by how nicely and uniformly theyāre budding out but itās nice to have an actual āfigureā to measure )
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Glad they helped forgot who showed me those, just pass it forward, thatās y this cite is so great good luck
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Just want to give the most updated table Iām finding that is working.
Here I have raised DLI earlier on, to avoid the excessive stretch of autoflowers or short veg grows while dropping it in the last 2 final weeks to avoid fox tails.
I would like to update this post with the information @BobbyDigital and @Hellraiser were able to confirm as well as others now that we have an accurate app that we can rely on.
Not sure if thatās an ability that can be granted @BobbyDigital?
Worst case maybe I can type it out and you can copy paste it into the original posting.
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Wow nice find, will be interested to see what others say
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The only lux to ppfd calculator I can find with close to matching spectrum is for cree 3k. Will that suffice for my qb120s in 3k?
What Iāve figured so far with that calc is that I need to be around 17k lux for the correct ppfd to achieve correct dli. Whata mouth full!
Am I headed down the right road?
So calc I found today says I need around 25k lux to be where I want.
Sorry for tripin, this new light has me stressed to the gills. Years of holding my hand at canopy top does no good here.
Maybe Iām just over complicating this cuz I aināt got it yet. Need that ole bulb to light up so I can say, urekaš
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