You know what they say, if it’s too good to be true…
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Facts, that’s why I was second guessing it. But also was thinking it could have been a mistake, but when I went to buy it an it took me to some website with foreign writing and the same logo tho, yuppers its not real.
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Always!
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Ac Infinity lights on sale on Amazon not ACI’s site. I bought an evo 8 last year, this is a good price. I believe there is a code to get another 10 % off. 799 currently on ACI web site.
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Nice share!
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How does the AC Infinity Evo8 compare to the Spider Farmer SE7000? Both are on sale at the moment, spider farmer is cheaper though and it looks to have better coverage.
Do you guys have a suggestion for a 4x4 with no co2?
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This is based on the numbers provided by the retailers. The accuracy of this chart is based on ppf and wattage they share. I use a calculator to translate the total numbers into usable ppf.
The prices I pulled from their websites not necessarily sales
| Light Fixture | Usable PPF (µmol) | Photon Efficiency (µmol/w) | Cost | Cost Efficiency ($/µmol) | Power Draw (watts) | Benchmark Harvest (grams) | Coverage (Sq. Feet) | Warranty | Diodes |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| SE7000 | 1858 | 2.55 | $559 | $0.30 | 730 | 1394 | 28.6 | 5 Year | LM301H EVO |
| EVO8 | 1985 | 2.72 | $799 | $0.40 | 730 | 1488 | 30.5 | 5 Year | LM301H EVO |
Looks like the Spider farmer has even more distributed coverage at around 12” but is not as intense as the ac infinity, which means the ac infinity would have to run a bit higher to get even coverage through out.
Spider at 12”
AC infinity at 12”
These are crazy numbers on the AC. Seems much more intense over a distance than the spider.
It’s not easy to run cO2 appropriately and I wouldn’t recommend for a tent. These fixtures can be dimmed an ran appropriately. Otherwise in general you need a sealed environment, you need higher temps, you need to dial in high ppm feeds. There is a lot to consider. With all this comes with over the top environmental controls to keep the area sealed.
To me it seems like the more realistic option for a tent is the spider farmer because you are limited on height and it achieves a more even spread without having to go too far from the canopy. Where it looks like the evo 8 will need more distance/to get similar coverage. The evo8 also looks much more concentrated in the center which could be a challenge dialing in an even canopy. Seems like the evo8 would be a better fit for a room with less restriction on heights that come with a tent. Just my opinion.
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I’m not partial to either of these companies. While I would normally be directed to more efficient light I don’t think I would pay 25% more umol/$ to have a light from AC Infinity. If it was HLG I probably would, just for the customer support.
I agree that SF light is what I would get if limited between these two.
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You guys are awesome! Thank you for the quick responses.
Just to make sure, you don’t think I’d go wrong with the spider farmer?
Is it too much light if I’m not running co2?
I just figured wall to wall coverage in a 4x4 would be a good way to go.
Do I go a step lower and look at the evo6 and/or the se5000?
Or look into a hlg for the same price? Do you guys have a suggestion on the same price?
Currently I’m running 2- hlg 260r in my 4x4. Growing autos at different stages, but am going to switch to growing photos.
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I love wall to wall. And running the fixture at a dim will prolong the life. These can also handle 5x5. Not perfectly but better than a lot. Consider wattage and distance from canopy to cover that footprint. Might need a tall tent.
HLG, they kinda dominate the 4x4 5x5 foot prints but really need some distance from the canopy to take advantage of their coverage.
Warranty
Do you have back ups in the even you have to wait a 2 for spider or AC infinity mid run? Idk that they will overnight you something in the event of a problem like HLG would.
Multiple fixtures vs 1
Have the potential for supreme coverage outdoing a singular unit. Can also be beneficial when working with multiple plants with different growth patterns.
Lot of variables, you have to kind of tailor these ideas to your intentions.
Edit
I run the g8600 and it does well, but I got gen 1 with 8 bars, kinda confuses me why they would drop to 6 and increase the wattage per bridglux diode.. mars hydro did the same with their similarly classed bar light. 
Diodes
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Manufacturer
• Bridgelux: Bridgelux is an American company known for its LED solutions across various applications, including general lighting, horticulture, and industrial uses.
• LM301H EVO: Manufactured by Samsung, the LM301H EVO is part of the LM301 series, specifically designed for horticultural lighting. -
Primary Applications
• Bridgelux LEDs: Offer versatility, including applications in horticulture, general illumination, and specialty lighting. Some Bridgelux LEDs are optimized for horticulture, but they have a broader product portfolio.
• LM301H EVO: Tailored for horticulture with high efficacy and a carefully designed spectrum to support plant growth. -
Efficiency
• Bridgelux: High efficacy depending on the model, but generally does not match Samsung’s LM301H EVO in raw efficiency for horticultural applications.
• LM301H EVO: Exceptional efficacy, often exceeding 3.1 μmol/J (photosynthetic photon efficacy), making it one of the most efficient options for horticulture. -
Spectrum
• Bridgelux: Offers a range of spectral outputs, including broad-spectrum white and horticulture-specific variants (e.g., Thrive Series). Their spectrum varies based on the application and target.
• LM301H EVO: Optimized for horticulture with a full-spectrum white light that includes a balanced mix of blue, green, and red for efficient photosynthesis. -
Cost
• Bridgelux: Tends to be more affordable than Samsung LEDs, offering competitive performance at a lower price point.
• LM301H EVO: Premium pricing reflects its top-tier performance and efficiency in horticulture. -
Performance for Horticulture
• Bridgelux: Provides good performance with certain models designed for horticulture, but typically does not achieve the same efficacy or spectral optimization as the LM301H EVO.
• LM301H EVO: Specifically engineered for plant growth, with superior photosynthetic photon flux density (PPFD) delivery and energy efficiency. -
Reliability and Lifespan
• Both manufacturers offer reliable, long-lasting LEDs, but Samsung’s LM301H EVO is widely regarded as a benchmark in durability and performance consistency.
Summary:
• Choose Bridgelux for cost-effective, versatile lighting solutions with good performance across applications.
• Opt for LM301H EVO if you need cutting-edge horticultural lighting with unmatched efficiency and optimized plant-growth performance.
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Do you have backs ups in the event you have to wait a week or 2
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All great information, thanks for that.
That’s where I’m getting hung up though on top tier needs/wants…do I need top tier or just want it. I know my wallet doesn’t want or need the top tier price tag. Ha!
How do you like the g8600? It’s still a solid light at 6 bars cs the 8, right?
I can’t imagine I need more than that either. Would the se7000 or evo8 grow that much better bud?
At the moment I have the 2 hlg 260Rs, 2-3 hlg 100s that are in storage at the moment and a sf1000. I do have some spare lights in other words.
My plan is to put the new light in an ACI 4x4 I have and use the 260r in a gorilla 2x4 I have and use a SF 2x2 for drying and clones out one of the smaller lights.
I like the coverage of the SF lights vs the ACI stuff by the looks of it and the price tag of the g8600 is really appealing.
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I use the 8600 daisy chained to the mars hydro fc e8000 for a 4x8 footprint. The coverage is great. But I have not had to go above 60% power to get my numbers.
I’d imagine the coverage is similar between the 6-8 bars. But they also changed the wattage. My 8600 is 830 watts. So they are just pushing the diodes a little harder.
Difference in bud, not likely. The difference is how much you’re paying to operate the fixtures. Efficiency is how much bang you are getting for your buck.
The plan sounds good, you may have to reconsider your 2x2 for a dry tent. Maybe 1 plant in there unless you buck all the buds into one of those mesh rack systems and climate control the tent.
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Good thinking, wasn’t thinking about drying in the 2x2. Currently I’m only drying 1 auto every 30-45 days in the 2x2. Works great for that, probably won’t be too good for 3-4 photos.
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Yeah buddy. Photos don’t play.
My last 4x4 run with my Frankenstein light. (3) sp3000’s and 2 fgi uva fixtures. 900 watt capability. 50-70% power
Packed 2x2’plants in diameter
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I haven’t pulled the trigger yet, but am leaning towards the se7000, just to have the evo diodes.
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Have you looked at sayhon lights. They have osram chips. A google search says samsung white with oshram reds are the way to go. I’m no light pro. I have ask here if sayhon is a good light but don’t get much response. I personally get good grows with them.
I switched from bestva to sayhon. Just throwing it out there.
There are others you would have to go to sayhon site
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Samsung, Osram, Cree, Bridgelux, Nichia all make really good leds. They all make some not very good leds too. It’s important to pay attention to which led and not so much the brand name recognition. I have no idea what the Sayhon pictured above is performance wise but I wouldn’t be afraid to buy a light using Osram leds.
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