Happy Frog runoff test

Well put. Couldn’t agree with you more

Less is better is what ive always preached.

Unless we’re talk"in delicious candy treats

Halloween is just around the corner :japanese_ogre::japanese_ogre::japanese_goblin::japanese_goblin::clown_face::clown_face::skull_and_crossbones::skull_and_crossbones::skull::skull::alien::alien:

YES! :partying_face:

@Cap_Ron
Good afternoon brother man. The yellow girl got her second feed of 675 EC base only nutrient fix this morning. I’ll be mixing a third here shortly. That stated before unfortunately she is a every other day either so she’s only had two feeds in 5 days.

Below with some pictures I just took I don’t have a very good camera I spent all my money on nutrients.



Do those burnt spots look like old age or nutrient burn? Nevertheless her runoff’s been okay
8/30
IN
EC 682
OUT 929

9/1
IN
EC 672
OUT
963

You don’t think it’s Bud rot do you?


Getting a little worried about this. Looks like the big girls starting to get a little bit of this.


Bought it! Love it! I personally hate trimming. Seems the be the only thing about cultivating I don’t like, so far. Well, the DWC clean up sux too. :grin:

I wouldn’t worry about the tip burn, it’s to be expected at this point when they’re well fed, and I don’t see any bud rot in those pics, just darker color pistils which signal she’s getting closer to the end.
Did you ever get a runoff pH from any of them last week? I see a bit of a calcium deficiency, but it might not be due to a lack of calcium, it could also happen if the pH has drifted too far one way or the other.

I have documents of everything. I I’m finishing up my little smoke break (nasty ass cigarettes). I’ll get you the numbers in another Post in less than 6 minutes

@Cap_Ron
Hi Ron thanks for the reply below are the recent numbers from her last four feeds. She ate this morning base nutrients and the feed before that. Just in case you think there should be some adjustments I have not yet made her feed for her next meal.

8/26
IN
EC 675
PPM 337
pH 6.59

OUT
EC 1286
PPM 6:45
pH 5.97

8/28
IN
EC 664
PPM 332
pH 5.93

OUT
EC 810
PPM 400
pH 6.25

8/30
IN
EC 682
PPM 342
pH 5.71

OUT
EC 928
PPM 461
pH 6.15

9/1
IN
EC 672
PPM 335
pH 5.58

OUT
EC 963
PPM 481
pH 6.27

The numbers look very good, pH runoff is in a healthy range for the nutrients you’re using. Are the worst looking leaves all near the tops of the plants? I can’t tell exactly from the pics, and I’m wondering if the light might be a bit too strong near the tops. Maybe make the next feeding with 150-200EC of calmag, and then the rest with base nutrients up to the same level as you’ve been feeding.

@Cap_Ron
Since everything in the tent is in mid to late flower I’ve made everything in the tent the same size by booster seats (milk crates) so everything is 14 in from the light. The light is maxed at 100% and has been for a couple of weeks now.

I did this just so I could maximize lighting for the buds. I can go ahead and do your recommendation to feed her calmag and then I can turn the lights down to 75%

I don’t think anything in the tent will suffer from being only 75% the relative humidity is between 45 and 55% temperatures are between 80 and 87 during the day and about 75 average at night.

And yes the majority of the burn spots are at the top bud area

There is a small degree of guesswork, and at 14 inches it’s probably not likely that the light is too strong. I was just asking about the light because your EC and pH numbers look good.

Normally when I do turn down the intensity of the grow lights in the last few weeks I lower the strength of the feedings a bit as well. Less light means less photosynthesis, so their appetite can go down a bit as well.

If you want to give it another week or two until you lower the light intensity, you can see if the calmag and base nutrients help over the next couple of feedings, or if there are any changes at all.

@Cap_Ron
I actually grabbed the tape measure she’s about 17 in away from the light. I already turned the light back on 75% nevertheless, when I go back up there I’ll turn it back to 100%. I find that 3 gallon bags fit perfectly on milk crates and upside down 5 gallon buckets so everything is within the manufacturer’s recommendation of height during flowering. (If that means anything)

For as little as I’ve learned, I’ve come to understand the EC in and out after you drilling me it finally stuck and become understandable. That’s why I never really mentioned her numbers as she looked good. I’ve never paid attention to any pH levels whatsoever due to the luxury of our nutrients. (Maybe I should educate myself a little more when the pH)

She was also right next to a ceramic heater that doesn’t point towards the girls it points toward the wall. Just in case as a measure I basically moved her up front in a very similar position but away from all the heat

From a glance (from an unprofessional like me) she basically looks done or damn close. Nevertheless, I don’t think that’s the case as all her trichomes are clear from what I can see. And that’s another issue I can’t see very well I had a stroke 2 years ago in my eye and lost 20% vision. In a nutshell, I can’t tell a bird’s eye view of a pig’s ass in the moonlight.

She’s got three sisters born the same day two of them are slightly smaller. She’s a big girl and grew almost identically to the rest of the GSCE until flowering. I pointed it out to you a while ago that her bud structure was much different than the rest of the girls. She wasn’t Frosty sugary looking like every one of the girls and the other girls had white hair and all her hair is Amber.

You said it’s just her genetics I believe. Other than messing up her new strands which I don’t think I did then you don’t believe that I did I’m kind of out of potential solutions to what may have went wrong. If you look at her she has what looks like nutrient burn but in spots all over certainly leaves. Since lollipopping there’s no chance of anything up there getting splashed with nutrients.

For the time being I’ve mixed her next feed at 175 EC of Cal magic topping it off with base nutrients only to 675 EC total feed. I’ll continue to give her 675 EC base nutrients until I can post a better picture of her getting better. Unless you have anything else to add for it I think that’s the plan. I spent a lot of time in this and another form searching similar scenarios and I’ve seen some serious calmag deficiencies that kind of simulate her look so hopefully it could potentially be just that. Unfortunately she won’t eat tomorrow so I would be anticipate another five to seven days before we see a real change in her.

Slightly off topic but regarding the same girl just in the way she’s matured, she was born July 3rd. Big girl was born June 22nd she looks more ready than big girl. Is it possible she’ll finish before big girl? That’s just a general curiosity question that I have.

Thanks for all your efforts on this buddy. I know it took a lot of thought and time. :v:

On the last question, yes, it’s possible that one started later could finish before one started sooner. Most of my autos take between 12 and 14 weeks, but occasionally I’ll get one that goes faster or slower.

With the pH perfect nutrients I don’t bother looking at the runoff pH unless something is wrong with one of the plants. Your numbers are excellent though, so nothing to worry about there.

Just curious, what’s the need for the heater in the tent?

Basically to keep the tent dialed in. I run air condition into my tent by a dryer vent for the back wall of the tent. Should the temperature drop below 70 at night or during the day for that matter the heater will automatically turn on and cut back off at 75.

Days are still hot here so the heat doesn’t kick on very much. However at night it’s starting to get cooler (and the nights were very cool when I started the Grow) so for the sake of keeping dialed in is why the tent has the heater inside.

Do you think it’s an issue?

@Cap_Ron
I bought this last week after we talked. I think I’m going to need it. It’s the perfect size it’s big! Very well constructed

No issue with the heater, I was just wondering but I understand now.
That’s a nice size trim tray, and looks like a very good price. And it can never hurt getting 2 more pairs of trimmers, no matter how many you already have, lol.

@Cap_Ron
When the time comes I got about 10 pair of scissors or more. A 750 song kick ass rock & roll playlist blasting through in altec Lansing speaker. Refrigerator full of soft drinks and a pot of coffee.

And a few days or more with nothing at all to do! Seems like that day keeps getting closer and closer and truthfully I can’t wait!

@Cap_Ron
The yellow girl wasn’t ready to eat this morning. However, I went ahead and overfed her anyway. This way at least you got her calmag shot which I truly deep down inside believe that’s what’s going on with her.

She did look slightly happier this morning when I pulled her out. I think she really enjoyed the last few feeds of base nutes.

Is the 175 EC fix of Cal mag sufficient for her or should I give her another 100 EC on her next feed? I’m not really familiar with this type of deficiency.

Happy Saturday brother Ron