So I was playing around with the babes the other night and came up with the idea of wrapping the stems around the poles that I have boxed around the plant. I’m wondering if anyone has ever tried stuff like this and would results will come from it if I were to have every one of these bars wrapped with stems LOL. So this was just a thought and I figured while I have the plant main line and would be able to do that how would it work out?
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I haven’t specifically done this but it’s essentially the same as weaving plant through a trellis. This alone is acceptable as far as a plant training method is concerned but I don’t personally like it as you’re 100% commitment once you do something like this. If you simply push plants down to keep them under your trellis you can move around and re-shape some later if needed.
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Agree with @dbrn32 and would recommend addressing the plant yellowing issue before any additional stress is put on this plant 
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My thoughts too…
Stressed badly…
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@OGIncognito man I can’t figure the yellowing out. pH is 6.5 and the PPM is 900, the plant right next to it is doing great. I gave some worm castings a couple waterings ago and the newer growth appears to be coming out green, I’m not sure if the yellowing slow down or not but yeah man I just can’t figure it out
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Are you still giving her Nitrogen when feeding?
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@Bonjoyle I haven’t flipped a flower yet. I haven’t gave any nutrients the whole grow because I am in ffof,
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Is this input? What was the last run off and nutrients you’re feeding 
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If that plants is older than 6 weeks I would say that medium is pretty depleted of the nutrients it came with
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@OGIncognito that is runoff and no nutrients, they only been in that soil for about 6 weeks or so
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Use a complete liquid/ soluble plant fertilizer and make sure it has nitrogen and iron. Lack of nitrogen (one of the main ingredients in fertilizers) and lack of iron both cause yellow leaves. Water the plants twice a week for a few weeks with the fertilizer and see if they improve. If they do, then you need to get more nutrients into the soil, either naturally or with artificial fetilizers.
If your tap water is soft (has no or only low levels of minerals in) make sure the fertilizer has calcium and magnesium in. If it doesn’t you can buy Epsom Salts for magnesium and dissolve them in hot tap water, let it cool and water the plant with it.
You can buy calcium chloride from hardware stores or swimming pool shops and dissolve that in hot or cold water and water the plants with that. They don’t need much calcium or magnesium but they do need some.
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@randylilgnome well I planned on flipping to flower very soon and using the tiger bloom. I just threw some worm castings on top a couple of days ago so I was just going to wait a few more days and flip to 1212 and start giving tiger bloom, that’ll work right? My tap water comes out about 200 PPM, I do have a fresh bag of Epsom salt, never used it yet and I have a little Cal mag in case I need it. But my runoff of this plant was 900 PPM and that was from using straight water
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Tiger bloom does not have all the
Macro nutrients needed like nitrogen which will be in high demand during the flowering stretch. I would find a well balanced nutrient line and keep it simple. Mega Crop 1 part or Jacks 321 would be my recommendation. I wouldn’t flip the light schedule until the plant is healthy
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@OGIncognito okay but what about the 900 PPM that is still in my soil, I mean I’m sure there’s nitrogen in there right??
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The 900ppm reading could be from anything in the water and doesn’t necessarily refer to nitrogen. There might not be any nitrogen left. Cannabis plants are heavy feeders and suck up nutrients daily. They can strip all the nutrients out of soil very quickly.
Don’t flip the plant until it’s nice and green (as mentioned by OGIncognito). If you flip it now it won’t do well and you will have wasted the next few months and get very little reward. Get the plant nice and dark green over the next month and then flip it. Feed the plant more potassium for at least 2 weeks (preferably 4) before you flip it. They use potassium for the flowers and if you don’t start adding extra potassium well before you flip them, you don’t get as many flowers.
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Could be, what’s your method of testing the run off and your water source PPMs. When I grew in soil I learned to let a good bit run out before I catch a sample to test. This last bit typically comes from the root zone. In Soil you’re safe but pushing it to be around 1400-1600 PPMs using synthetic fertilizer
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@randylilgnome I have some Dr Earth pump and grow 3-2-2 and I have some all-purpose Miracle-Gro liquid fertilizer. Maybe I’ll give it a shot of one of those, see my Cal mag has 1-0-0 NPK and it is well. I’m guessing that wouldn’t be enough? So you’re saying it’s time to start feeding tiger bloom correct? correct?
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@randylilgnome think I could get away with filling my pot up with some more fresh f f o f instead of having to get some grow big
The plant definitely needs nitrogen or iron or both, probably nitrogen.
I just did a quick Google search for Tiger Bloom ingredients and it has a lot of stuff in but doesn’t say the ratios (NPK with numbers). You need fairly high nitrogen numbers for cannabis (20-30% is common). I would start with a normal dose and feed it twice a week for a few weeks and see how it goes.
The NPK on fertilizer packets stands for Nitrogen (N), Phosphorus (P), Potassium (K). These are the 3 main ingredients and called macro nutrients/ elements. You also get trace elements like calcium, magnesium, iron, sulfa, manganese, zinc, etc. The Tiger Bloom has a lot of these in but not as just nitrogen. They use nitrates to provide nitrogen, phosphates for phosphorus, and potassium. You want potassium numbers around 20-30% for flowering.
eg: for vegetative state, you want NPK around 20-30, 3-5, 10.
Nitrogen 20-30, Phosphorus 3-5, Potassium 10.
For flowering you want NPK around 10-15, 3-5, 20-30.
Nitrogen 10-15, Phosphorus 3-5, Potassium 20-30.
You can have more nitrogen during flowering but once the flowers are set, the plant won’t grow many more leaves and extra nitrogen doesn’t get used. At this stage you watch the plant for yellowing in the leaves and if that happens in early flowering, you give it more nitrogen. However, if you get yellow leaves when it’s nearing the end of flowering, you don’t give it more nitrogen, you just let the leaves go yellow.
@randylilgnome right I understand I think the NPK on tiger bloom is 2 - 8-4 or something like that but I know it definitely has two nitrogen in it