Wrapping the stems around a stick? Has anyone tried this?

2 isn’t enough nitrogen for cannabis plants. Pop down to the local hardware store and look for a liquid plant fertilizer (or a powder plant fertilizer that you can dissolve in water) and get a pack with a high nitrogen number (20-30). Get something with a higher potassium number too (10+).

Dry powder fertilizers are usually cheaper than liquid and last longer (as long as they are kept dry).

You know who would love this idea??? @kaptain3d have you done this before?

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@randylilgnome I guess I will just have to spend the money on a bottle of growbig :frowning: I was hoping I could get by without it you know being in that soil and then could just flip to flower, that’s why I’ve never even used the grow big in the trio, like my last harvest all I use was Big Bloom and tiger bloom and I vegged them for a while in the ffof, I got about three zips off of each plant. But I guess I got to do what I got to do, I see people still feed grow big Dawn flowering with the trio. Last grow I never really use no veg notes besides the miracle grow a couple of times then straight tiger bloom and Big Bloom

2-3-1 is essentially the same as 20-30-10 the elemental ppm of each is based on the mixture ratio. Then you have to consider other macros and micronutrients that may or may not be included in every different package. This is why it’s easier to do what OGIncognito suggested and get whatever brand you want, just making sure a complete base nutrient package is covered.

This is pretty low regardless of what elements are left available, but outside of having the soil tested there isn’t really anyway to know how the runoff breaks down per element. And since you’re rolling strictly with organic soil to this point if you’re microbial activity is low this won’t be broken down to be all plant available. It’s not the same as providing synthetic fertilizer that is immediately plant available. A slurry test of a fresh bag of organic soil could read over 4000ppm, so 900ppm is pretty low.

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I never wrapped stems around a stick… But I knotted two of them together once or twice… :smiling_imp:

Sadly, I can’t find pictures of it for now, but I know they are somewhere here…

Otherwise, I’ve used sticks to support my planties in all kind of different manners…

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Gangster :love_you_gesture:

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I like that

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@dbrn32 so no matter what I need to get it some veg nutes before flipping?

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@Poochie332 click the watch button on this topic so you can stay with it dude

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There is never only one way to do anything haha. If you want the easiest path moving forward, It would be to get nutrients sorted before going to flower and have a solid plan for what you’re feeding through flower.

Half the active members here are using jacks 321 recipe or a modified version of it. This is basically starting with the plan to feed the exact same recipe from start to finish. It doesn’t always work out that way, but it has been determined successful. To me, it’s not a matter of figuring out veg fertilizer and/or flower fertilize but having a plan for fertilizer in general. If you want to have two different recipes is fine. Just make sure that both cover everything that is needed.

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@dbrn32 okay well I don’t have much money at the moment but what is the cheapest I could spend on the jacks and where can I get it from

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@dbrn32 and can you help me understand how Jack’s works being you feed the same thing always through veg to finish but there is different needs in veg and flour you know like how when you’re in bed you’re supposed to have a higher n and in flower a higher p and k, that’s crazy that you don’t even have to worry about that with that Jack stuff

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Eebay has the cheapest Jack’s kits. Some sellers will use a different brand of Calcium Nitrate (Part B), but is comparable to Jack Peters. I got a 14lb kit (7lb PartA, 5lb Part B, 2lb epsom) for like $70 delivered.

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The plants needs aren’t that different and using one formula that covers basic needs of both is possible. There is just a lot more than what you pour into pots that goes into having healthy plants. Light intensity and environmental conditions can easily change nutrient demand where feeding one grow may be great and the same recipe on the next grow could have problems. Nor does it mean that having green plants healthy in appearance are providing the best results possible. You just have to start somewhere, and the best place to start is making sure you have the plants basic needs covered. Regardless of name on bag or bottles they all have stuff for this and each usually has its quirks and/or unique instructions.

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Damn! Awesome!

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@Borderryan22 yeah I don’t have $70 to spend at the moment though

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Thanks! :smile:

I love torturing my planties :smiling_imp:

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Check out Mega Crop. It’s a 1 part nutrient system. It’s like $22 for a 3lb bag on Amazon. @OGIncognito has great results with it

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@Borderryan22 all right cool I’ll check it out, since I have a whole bottle of tiger bloom already I think I’m going to get some grow big still at least for now. One thing I hate about Fox farms nutrients is the flush part LOL part LOL

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The Fox Farms trio is intended to be used all in unison. Big Bloom, Grow Big and Tiger Bloom altogether in their respective amounts. It will be really difficult not to run into any major deficiencies really quick. When used together, and incorporating the appropriate flushes, it is a really good line. My first couple grows were with it and I had some amazing buds.

I just checked Amazon and the cheapest Jack’s kit is 52 before tax. That’s 2lb of Part A and 2lb of Part B, no epsom.

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