Hello everyone! I am currently reaching Veg wk 4 which start this Friday 1/20 and I have yet to top my ladies and lay the first layer of scrog. My first question is, should I even top them yet? Or should I wait a bit longer? I have a 6x2x4 tent and I don’t want the photos growing too tall lol. I am going to feed today, and I realize once the scrog is in, it’s in.
My second question relates to the scrog, as I was wondering if I do lay a scrog, should I lay it on the ladies? Or slightly above them to be able to manipulate the branches?
They are growing their first sets of branches already as I stopped cleaning them up and just let them grow out (cleaned up fan leaves though). Should I continue to cut any nodes that are currently in the lower half?
Sorry there are so many questions, I just want to do this right!
Those look like monster leaves. I top after the 5th or 6th node. You can tuck some of the leaves and start lst. You have a short tent, so u will want to keep them short. If you SCROG, remember you still have to get around to water and feed.
Thanks for the tag. So I usually place the scrog and let the plants grow into. It takes a lot of time but makes a super dense canopy. I don’t flip until it’s wall to wall. Couple examples pre-flower 2x4 canopies:
If you don’t want to spend a bunch of time just let them veg naturally a bit then do the scrog and crush them down as low as you can. The difference in this is fewer buds, but larger buds. You should yield roughly the same either way.
Here’s flowering examples with a secondary net for bud weight
If I’m scrogging one plant in the method described it can take 5-7 months in veg. This takes a ridiculous amount of defoliation and training. You do 2 plants maybe 3 months of veg, if you do 3 plants maybe 2 months of veg. Depends how hard you wanna pack them. Also you might struggle with pheno differences if you aren’t running from clone, or running different strains altogether.
The faster method being veg them out in a natural state until they are twice the height of the desired canopy height, then crush them down, give it a week or so and flip.
If these are different strains, I would flip to 12/12 with natural growth and use the scrog at 1.5-2 weeks later. You’d have the benefit of propping up pots of the shorter plant. Evening the height at this time, hit them with the net and tuck for an even canopy.
@Low , priceless info. I remember seeing all these as you grew them. Watched daily.
And I’m still in awe sitting here sipping on Maker’s Mark. Incredibly done on your part. Damn.
Thank you all so much for the help! Low your work is absolutely fantastic and I cannot thank you enough for your help and priceless knowledge! I do have one question, I see you have your fabric pots on a water catching drain thing, how do you manage to pull the water from that after you scrog? Thanks again!
Ps: sorry to bother again, but in regards to topping, should I do that soon with the two photos?
The structure of the plant is also drastically different. This is it on day 41 with the numbers indicating where it was topped. The intent is for it to have 12 colas.
Thanks! I use pot risers to keep the pots out of the saucers and I use a shop vac to collect run off. As for topping, I usually remove the first node and top at the 5th. Helps the plant bush out a little more. But really not necessary utilizing a screen.
Thanks, it was a PITA and I probably wouldn’t do it again unless I was low on the genetics. I did this with 2 plants back to back. Over a year invested in 2 plants.
I did this with 2 plants back to back. Over a year invested in 2 plants.