When you are feeding salts to a plant you are giving them what you think they need. You can always look at a plant and say yeah it’s fine…
Living organic soils done the right way will privide all necessary nutrition that the plant can pick and choose to use during different stages of growth without toxicity… Giving it what it need for maximum results without any flush time at the end…
I have had excellent results using a little soluble fertilizer with organics, and that method is starting to become popular. Universities are coming up with research that proves using a little bit of salts in with organics can increase yields and terp profiles tremendously. People are also experimenting with prolonged flowering times for different terpenes mostly used in extracts.
As far as food goes. Plants that are grown on the organic side have higher nutritional values compared to being grown with salt/chemical fertilizers…
I dunno that I buy that one. Do you anything at hand to back that up? And that’s not a demand for proof. I’m genuinely curious, because that’s contrary to everything I’ve seen.
I have to ask like @DrWoo - I’m from Missouri - the SHOW ME state! LOL!
That’s like saying the soft pretzels at the mall get me more full than the exact same weight of pretzels from a bag at the grocery store!
What makes the chemical structure of nitrogen any different from a “organic” source vrs a “chemical” source?
I’m pretty sure N is a base element that in order to be called N has to be N, regardless of source.
I think that’s the way elements work in nature - they’re pure and consistent and found in every form in every thing! But when reduced to their base they’re consistently the same chemical structure. Otherwise it’s a different element!
It’s not any different at all when the plant takes it up.
No matter what source it came from, it is absolutely the exact same chemical structure.
There is no mechanism at which the plant can tell where the chemicals came from be it an organic sorce or an isolate “salt”.
In fact many of the salts was pulled from organic materials, but the end product is the same weather made by microbes or technology, it’s the exact same thing…
Every test I’ve seen that actually follows the scientific process, never supports many of the claims, in fact many blind taste tests show that smokers prefer weed grown with salt over living soil. “Grown properly with salts I should say”
A quick Google search shows this.
Things like flushing before harvest doesn’t have much if any support via these same kinda blind taste tests.
Biology just doesn’t work in such a way that make some of these ideas even possible…
Sure we don’t know absolutely everything about how plants work, but from what we do know, it just isn’t how it works with some things.
I could be wrong and there is some unknown factors.
I can’t argue with the fact that microbes have had millions of years to refine there process and humans no where near that long.
So it’s entirely possible that there is things we don’t even know that’s in living soil or that the microbes produce…
It would be extremely exciting if this was the case but I’m not convinced by current anecdotal evidence 
I heard about this on a recent Mr Grow It podcast featuring Dr Bruce Bugbee, both figures I have the utmost respect for. It was an eye opener for sure.
It didn’t change my mind though. Mother Nature doesn’t use bottled nutes, and I’ll never second guess her, she’s been doing this gardening thing a lot longer that I have.
Try worms! Vermicomposting is a super easy thing we can all do to keep some of our garbage out of the landfill. Plastic bottles only add to that problem.
What are these products packaged in?
“Eggs”. 
Fair enough 
@1HappyPappy, you have inspired me to take the ultimate plunge and put my worms where their mouth (or whatever) is. I’ve just started to flower these fine ladies in the finest vermicompost I’ve grown in yet.
They’re getting nothing but water, (and on occasion, maybe some Fish Sh!t,) from here until harvest day. And then they’re going to win me Bud of the Month.
You can follow their progress here:
Good discussion and information in this topic! I’ve grown both ways - it all gets smoked LOL!
I will digress…I am a chemist and worked 10 years on Human Biomonitoring and Epigenics studies. Fascinating looking at health outcomes from exposure to man-made and naturally occurring substances. Unfortunately chemistry isn’t a very “sexy” science.
Am I afraid of chemicals? No. Do I have a healthy respect for some chemicals? Yes.
I’m convinced a lot of people complaining about “salts” don’t even know what that means. Just that it’s bad because they read somewhere on the internet.
One thing that hasn’t been talked about, but that could give either synthetic or organic fertilizers that reputation of being ‘bad’ is the fact that fertilizers are generally over-used and over applied. Excess in the environment, particularly leached into water is a negative thing from any standpoint I would think.
This guy is smarter than me - but that’s not a really high bar! LOL!
Exactly what we’ve been talking about…
People kill plants… with organics u allow the plant to pick and choose nutrients instead of stuffing to much of one thing down its throat. All these hype nutes and high P ferts are not necessary.
Remember people kill plants, and thats most usually done by using salts…
Woor woot. How tall are these girls.
Growing organic cannabis involves no synthetic chemical inputs. Instead, growers use manure, compost, plant teas, and foliar sprays to nourish their specimens. This method produces less of an impact on the environment and helps to preserve soil life.
I’m not sure but does it affect taste and smell of the final product? I’be never really grew a hydro and a soil side by side to test. I know a hydroponic tomato has no flavor like a nice homegrown tomato.
Hydroponic tomatos suffer because the gardener is not a chemist. There is a long list of micro-nutrients that must be in balance for the resulting fruit to taste good. Very few gardeners will dedicate the time needed to get a chemistry degree. I have an A.S. on horticulture, so I at least had a small exposure to hydroponics, but just enough to know that chemistry is a HUGE part of it.
The only biase i have is charcoal for grilling great topic though lots of insite on both sides but as stated everyone has there on preference thanks for the read:call_me_hand: