Thank God I’m an engineer. This would sound complex…
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Get hose clamps so they don’t come off.
Either spring loaded or ratchet style.
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@Lostgirl It was day 1 of AN Master Recipe. On the Grow cycle plants I started with the week 1 recipe which is half strength base nutes, full strength on the rest. I did this because the recipe actually measured in at 742ppm, 1047ec and 6.37ph. Exactly where I thought they should be at an actual age of week 3 out of the ground. The problem child (lower far left corner, Jelly Donutz from HSC, The 4 on the far right are Fat Bast@rds from Kind seed Co) measured out at 5.89ph, 311ppm, 439ec. I’ve been pumping large amounts through this one because of it’s troubled past (extreme high ppm/ec and extreme low ph. I’m confident tomorrows numbers will be close to input. I initially had a huge problem because the Coco I used was the leftover Coco I have prepared for a previous transplant and I didn’t flush through it enough before using it to transplant these girls into the 2 gal pots from their Solo cups. If they had not liked what they got today, they would have almost immediately painted their nails. They didn’t, and they looked good again after a couple hours.
The big girls (8 days since I flipped the light to 12/12) got 50% of week 1 Master Bloom recipe. I initially forgot and made full strength but the numbers were insane at 5.94ph, 1700ppm, 2350ec. splitting that 12 liters in 2 and adding 6 liters to each half got me to 6.11ph, 915ppm, 1288ec. Almost perfect in my eyes. plant #1 (far left, Future #1 from Kind seed Co, the problem child in this tent) pushed out 5.65ph, 945ppm, 1332ec. The plant looks healthy but is a bit behind the other 2. Plant #2 in the middle (Bubba Kush from Barneys Farm, was always the runt, now the biggest and most aggressive) pushed out 5.85ph, 799ppm, 1126ec. Plant #3 (another Future #1 from Kind seed Co, had always been the leader of the pack and has been the ideal child the entire grow) Pushed out 6.05ph, 695ppm, 964ec.
THIS TENT IS A MESS !!! 3 plants were too many. I’s really almost impossible to manage the new growth as you will see. I’m at the point where I can pluck a few fan leaves here and there, but getting into center mass is impossible without damaging a lot. I’ll probably just let Darwin take over and see what emerges later down the road.
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The first thing you need to understand with advanced nutrients your pH is totally irrelevant
do not look at your pH in or out. Do not adjust your pH ever using advanced nutrients (I don’t care what the pH says it means nothing anymore)
Is this runoff or feed numbers?
Is this runoff or feed numbers?
You have way too many plants and way too many different growth cycles for me to keep up with the best way when you’re addressing a plant to me is like this when you give me the plants numbers
Plant #1 extended veg
Feed in
500ppm
Runoff
650ppm
Ect. Ect… (this way I can address your plant accordingly it’s all just jumbo numbers when I read your post) reading over your post three times I’m assuming these are run off numbers?
If you have a question on any of the plants do what I did above and then put your question underneath
Example
Plant #1 extended veg
Feed in
500ppm
Runoff
650ppm
Lost girl does these numbers look right should I have fed less should I offend more?
End example…
The absolute most important thing to remember is do not even look at your pH it means nothing anymore
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It’s also important when you feed your plant that you feed your plant with enough runoff fill up at least a couple few cups. This allows proper disposal of old and in with the new
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@Lostgirl, I know the ph means nothing now. I was just curious and didn’t know if you might be as well.
The “measured in at 742ppm, 1047ec” was the feed IN. to the early veg plants.
The “5.89ph, 311ppm, 439ec” was the reading OUT of the plant in that tent I had been having the most problems with. I used that one as an example because I had been feeding large volumes of feed through those plants to get their numbers down and stabilized at Seedling/early veg rate. The rest in that early veg tent were about the same. The highest being 469ppm.
I believe now we can bring them to the levels of our earlier discussion " maintain a 900 PPM runoff".
I think tomorrows feeding and runoff will closely resemble the numbers we are looking for. I thought we could see how they do for a day before we make an adjustment.
Same with the preflowering plants. Today i put in 6.11ph, 915ppm, 1288ec and got out 945ppm, 799ppm, and 695ppm. Target being 1000ppm. Again, I thought we could see what the numbers are tomorrow after the first full day.
I know we talked about 1/4 strength to begin with, but i was honestly so pleased with the measurements I got from from the week 1 GROW recipe “742ppm” going IN, and the 50% BLOOM recipe “915ppm” going IN that I ran with it.
Yes, I get at least 2 cups runoff from the small plants, and 4 cups runoff from the big plants.
Please, if you think we should adjust now, tell me where and I will do it again in 12 hours. And I am really sorry if my first post was a jumble.
Thoughts?
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These ppms are perfect
These numbers are fine as well
These numbers are in range
The ppms are low on this one.
Seedlings you want to run off till about 600 PPM (feed accordingly)
Vegetation you want to run off between 800 and 900ppm
Flower stage you want to run off between 1,000 -1100 ppm
I also strongly suggest that you document these numbers both in and out for each individ both in and out for each individual girl this way you can have a record.
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It’ll take some time to adjust the feeds for each girl. Documenting the numbers obviously will help. Once you zero in on the correct numbers feeding will be a lot easier. Unfortunately, it takes time and practice
As far as the need for emergency adjustments I don’t see the need whatsoever. Just correct them on the next go
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@Lostgirl I did document about half of the young ones, all are the same age at 3 weeks from seed. I would consider these veg now, so I think your initial recommendation of 900ppm is a good one. These will be culled down to 2, maybe 3 plants withing the next 10 days and put in their forever 5 gal fabric pots. I will check them all after tomorrow mornings feeding. I will adjust the part A+B GROW recipe until it reaches 900ppm to go in, probably 2ml of each A+B added to the 8 liter recipe. So 10ml of A+B instead of 8ml, hopefully taking that from 742ppm to 900ppm. I would like to keep all the young plants in that tent on the same mixture for now, unless a problem arises.
The larger plants I did document and will leave the same for the first 2 plants and bump it up for plant 3.
It’s easier to make that adjustment when those larger plants are getting 4 liters per plant. I will add an additional 2ml to plant #3’s 4 liter serving tomorrow morning? Or do you think that adjustment is too much at one time? (695ppm runoff this morning).
Your estimations of the bump up sounds within reason. You can always start low, check the PPM if short and more. Ect.ect.
You’ll get the hang of it. Takes a little practice
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@Lostgirl, good afternoon, and sorry it took so long on todays update. I did my feeding chores, then set up the 2 auto-watering systems and prepared 3-5 gallon pots for the upcoming transplant.
So, Tent #1, 3 preflowering plants.
Plant #1,
930ppm in, 1050ppm runoff
Plant #2,
930ppm, 797ppm runoff
Plant #3,
1010ppm in, 656ppm runoff (I bumped up it’s Bloom A+B 1ml)
All 3 of these plants have slightly painted nails this afternoon. (just a tiny bit)
Should I get a photo?
Thoughts on the measurements?
Tent #2, Veg. I ran 2 full feedings, 8 liters each, 1 hour apart through these to try to get the runoff higher. The first measurements runoff measurements were roughly 100ppm lower.
Plant #1,
842ppm in, 477ppm runoff
Plant #2,
842ppm in, 447ppm runoff
Plant #3,
842ppm in, 534ppm runoff
Plant #4,
842ppm in, 495ppm runoff
Plant #5,
842ppm in, 551ppm runoff
Plant #6,
842ppm in, 392ppm runoff
Plant #7,
842ppm in, 448ppm runoff
Plant #8,
842ppm in, 394ppm runoff
Plant #9,
842ppm in, 461ppm runoff
No signs of tip burn on these this afternoon.
I really need your advice on these.
Thank you for hanging in there with me.
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Good morning. I got about another hour’s worth of driving until I get home. Once I get home I’ll review this above and get back to you.
Good morning, the 3 pre-flower plants the numbers looking range. Nevertheless the other plant that you were feeding at 842ppm has has very low runoff PPM. With your highest number being 500ppm on the runoff.
As I said before I’ve never grown in Coco but your numbers seem significantly low on the runoff. I’m assuming the simply increasing the feed will take care of that. Nevertheless, when it comes to this stuff I don’t really like to assume. @Low and @OGIncognito @Budbrother
I believe our coco growers and I’ve tagged them in this post to get their input.
I don’t want to mislead you by trying to confuse my soil experience in your coco scenario. Let’s see what they have to say
@Lostgirl appreciate the tag Sis. Nice appetite on these girls, are feeding daily? My normal feeding range is 800-850 PPMs, are they showing any deficiencies 
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Thanks for chiming in brother man. He basically just switched over from Fox farm to advanced nutrients.
He’s got a shit ton of plants in different stages. None seem to be deficient in anything. He’s just trying to get the feed down. I have no coco experience. But I’m assuming he just needs to feed more to get that desired runoff. I just never seen a feed that over 800ppm run off 300-400ppm
My gut says feed more until your ppms come up on the runoff but I don’t want to steer the man wrong.
Thanks again for chiming in bro
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Sorry no help I’m organics
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Thanks brother. One day I’ll get it right 
@Lostgirl, @OGIncognito, Everybody is looking happy and healthy this morning.
I think you @Lostgirl said this once and it stuck with me, What I’m seeing today is a reflection of what happened 3 days ago,
Tent #1, 10 days into preflower, no sign of hedgehogs, 4 Liters per plant every morning. now that I have my watering system running, I will add a feeding in the evening. The two outside plants are Future #1 from Kind Seed Co, and the middle plant is Bubba Kush from Barneys Farm.
Plant #1,
987ppm in, 1010ppm out
Plant #2,
987ppm in, 941ppm out
Plant #3,
987ppm in, 899ppm out
Tent #2, Veg
To make a long story short, I did increase the volume to 10 liters total, and increased the A+B to 16ml each, and left all the additives at 16ml each.
PPM in was 856 to all plants, ppm out ranged from 698 to 754.
To me that seems phenomenal !!!
I hope I can pick 3 of the 9 by the end of next week to keep. The 4 on the left and 1 in the very center are Jelly Donutz from HSC, the 4 on the right are Fat Bastards from Kind Seed Co.
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Maybe your numbers were messed up because it was the first time you fed them with the new nutrients.
The last set of numbers look a hell of a lot better. There’s not a big differential between intake and outtake ppms as your first feed was.
All the plants look great
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