My first flip.. HELP!

Okay here’s my first few questions.

1.) You say you have…
PH Perfect Sensi Coco Grow A+B
Do you have Sensi Coco Bloom?

You also say you have…
PH Perfect Connoisseur Coco Bloom A+B
Do you have Connoisseur coco Grow?

2.) what type water are you using and what is the PPM of just your water?

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That’s what I have been doing, so far. I did not do the 21 and 42 flower schedule last time, so looking forward to the yield. Tx for the clarification!

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I do not have Sensi Coco Bloom. My intention was to use Connoisseur Coco Grow and Bloom, But the Connoisseur Coco Grow is unavailable. So I ended up with Sensi Coco Grow A+B and Connoisseur Coco Bloom A+B.
I’m using RO water from a HydroGardener Remineralizing Reverse Osmosis System that adds about 15-30ppm of Calmag back into the water, so my RO water runs about 25ppm. I’m currently feeding the seedlings 6.2ph and 300ppm of FF CN Grow and Calmag and Recharge. The preflower plants are getting 6.0ph and 900-1000ppm of FF CN Grow, Micro, Bloom, Calmag and recharge.

@Medication I topped twice and defoliated and light lollipop during veg to keep watering and general care manageable. Did a little heavier defoliate at the flip where i anticipate bud sites and did a heavy lollipop because i had to move my fans from above the canopy to below the canopy because the tent was so packed and the fans take up a lot of space that could be occupied by the plants, plus the plants were growing into the bottom of the fan and getting damaged.

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@OGIncognito I Did what you recommended. but with a pretty heavy lollipop so I could make room for the fans below the canopy.

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All right this is a lot of work so I’m just going to jump right into it.

First off bravo on choosing such a wonderful line of nutrients. I know this cost you a fortune but you’ll see the results within weeks.

I’m incredibly glad that you’re utilizing RO water for your grow with such a small PPM. First we’re going to start with a feeding chart. The chart below is what you’re going to use.

First let me say the chart above is for sensei. I do understand that you’re going to use the connoisseur bloom and that is just fine. All amounts will be the same and it is safe to use it as an alternative to not having Sensi bloom.

Let’s start with mixing order.
1.) RO water
2.) rhino skin (silica)
3.) calcium magnesium
4.) base nutrient part A
5.) base nutrient part B
6.) B-52
7.) big buds
The remainder of your additives can be added in any given order for the exception of Yucca if you’re using yucca it goes in last

Transition between nutrients
You’re going from Fox farm trio to advance nutrients and coco soil. Unless you have an incredible salt buildup I see no reason to flush. Simply start feeding the new nutrients. Things could get a little strange the first week or two and will level out throughout the growth. (Your transitional stage should be flawless)

pH adjustment to your water/feeds
You will no longer pH your water at all whatsoever. The pH perfect system by AN utilizes chelation and will take care of the pH in your grow from beginning to end. (Never adjust your pH)

I accidentally hit the submit button with my sausage fingers. The rest of this post to be continued. Sorry

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@Lostgirl Will I still need to supplement with Calmag? I thought the “Coco” series of nutrients is already charged with the Calmag that is needed?

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advanced nutrients switch part 2 :open_mouth:

Feeding with advanced nutrients
I’m not a Coco guy. If there’s something I don’t know or don’t understand I’ll point it out to you nevertheless, feeding coco soil with advanced nutrients you will feed every single time you water (unless you have a problem).

Your goal in veg and extended veg is to maintain a 900 PPM runoff (pH is irrelevant) Your safety zone is 1300 PPM (you do not want to go over 1300)

Your goal in flower is to maintain 1000ppm runoff with a safe zone of 1400 PPM (you do not want to go over 1400)

I would mix the feed in every stage starting at 1/4 strength of what the feed chart tells you.

If the runoff is too high feed less
If the runoff is too low feed more

No you will not need to supplement calcium magnesium with your coco nutrients. I was just giving you an accurate mixing order scenario above.

Note
That should get you started. There are several additives that I would not have purchased by advanced nutrients due to their price. You didn’t do wrong you just could have saved some money. At the end of the day you’re definitely using the best of the best.

If you’re utilizing a feed that requires a low feed PPM always make sure your base nutrients A & B take preference in the feed. You should never use more of any additive than your base nutrients.

I hope this all helps good luck to you

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@Lostgirl I will be getting started on this regiment on Friday. I have Nutes already mixed for tomorrow. I feed every morning. If runoff numbers don’t stay consistent, I feed again in 12 hours. If they get really out of whack, I keep pushing the correct nutrient solution back to back (15 minutes to 1/2 hour apart until I get the runoff numbers where I want them. If it’s okay with you, I would like to keep you in the loop with input and runoff numbers while I get this going.

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You know better than I do (as I have no experience with coco) as to the watering needs. All I know is the coco should never get dry. With that said, I would be happy to review your numbers until you get on point.

The transaction from Fox farm to advance might show some iffy results at first until we get that salty content that fox farm has completely depleted. (I doubt a flush will be needed but we shall see)

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Looking at your numbers briefly I see that you have different stages of plants. You seem to be on point with understanding feeding and run off because you’re on point :tada:

You’re simply going to be utilizing the same principles in numbers both feet and run off but with different nutrients. It’s going to take a while for you to get used to your PPM total going in when adding so many nutrients that’s why you start low. But knowing your desired feed PPM intake and run off helps me assist you much better and easier :v:

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You’ve purchased all these nutrients so you got to get your money’s worth out of them. Big Mike the creator of advanced nutrients truly did one hell of a job.

Nevertheless, once you get through the next grow or two and it comes time to reorder additives we can put our heads together and figure out what you do not need to reorder and what you can substitute cheaper with a different brand. (Will do this down the road)

Just a thought, because you’re switching over and there’s a lot of new mixing and calculating you might want to recalibrate both your TDS pen and your pH pen so you’re going into this with total assurance of accuracy. (Just my opinion)

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@Lostgirl I just recalibrated my PC60 pen yesterday, And I ordered another pen as a backup and double checker that will be here tomorrow. I’m going to be mixing the nutrients for 2 days of feeding at a time. I’ll be out of town for a week during the holidays so I have an automatic feeding system that I need to play with until then. Ultimately I’m hoping to have that dialed in before the trip. Then I’ll probably go back to hand watering after that. That is a big part of why I went with these nutrients. I didn’t want to worry about stabilizing PH for a week without adjustment.

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Oh Lord, going away on vacation for a few days (famous last words)

I’m just kidding I saw serious disasters from people just watering 10 minutes before they leave and going away for 5 days and coming back expecting everything to be normal :sob:

I agree make sure you dial that auto feeder in before you go

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@Lostgirl I know exactly what you mean. I will need some heavy anxiety meds while I am away. I will have culled the herd of veg plants down to 2 or 3 by then, and have them in 5 gal fabric pots, but yea, not one auto feeder, but two. one for the veg plants, and another for the 3 plants that will be 2 weeks into full flower.

I’ll be sure to say my prayers for you
:pray::place_of_worship::pray:

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Crap… this was what I was just searching. Sorry kids, no Christmas this year.

What’s your plan? Ive got the same trip planned. Leave 25 back on 31.

@SausageMahoney I am starting with the Vivosun Professional Automatic Drip Irrigation kits ($40.00 on Amazon) as they have most of the parts, and I am modifying them slightly to add a couple extra timers for small stirring pumps and air stones as described in Coco for Cannabis. Some reviewers have complained that the timers that come with the Vivosun kits are unreliable, so I will use the ones recommended on CCFC for the delivery pumps. I plant on assembling what I have, today or tomorrow so I can see how it works and make sure I can deliver at least 9 cups of water in no more 1 hours time through 2 of the emitters. I plan on having 2 emitters per plant, 3 plants per system. 1 system for 3 veging plants, and 1 system for 3 flowering plants. I plan on hooking it up now so I can make sure all connections remain secure and that the emitters are adequate. If not, I can go get better Tee’s, connections or emitters if needed. I don’t want hoses popping off or the emitters taking to long. I would like the emitters to produce enough to feed the proper amount in 15-20 minutes with the pumps operating at no more than 50%. I think this will decrease the chance of pressure popping the hoses off.

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Holy crap,enough for a field full hehehehe!

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