Last ditch effort…please help. Newbie is very out of his element

Nice. You’re going to grow some great weed.
Hellraiser grows Cherry Ice Cream clones, Jacks vs Advanced Nutrients, making feminized seeds

Here’s a great resource on using Jack’s

Hellraiser is basically a pro at growing and he loves to teach. Feel free to ask him anything about jacks. All his journals are great resources.

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Hellraiser grows Zkittlez and Banana Kush in coco with Jacks 321

Here’s a better jacks resource

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Thanks for the recommendation! I was just thinking I was gonna do some night time reading through journals to see just how to properly start! Excited for a fresh start!

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I spent a small fortune on grow equipment before I discovered this forum.

It’s really helped me dial in my grow.

If you want a good laugh, check this out.

Blurple Buyer’s Support Group

…. I may have already linked this…. But a good read if you haven’t checked it out yet

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I’m always in for a laugh, I’ll check it out as well !

And I’m veryyyyy appreciative for the finding the forum, and guiding me in a good direction.
Honestly, I was never going to post in one of these cause I didn’t wanna be hammered with negativity because I wasn’t a green thumb my first grow, ya know? :sweat_smile:

But everyone has been nothing but welcoming and helpful ! :+1:t4:

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IMO no one would need a forum if we were all naturals at it. :laughing: I hear a lot of other places are pretty negative but this one has definitely been worth the energy to learn to grow.

Hellraiser’s guides are definitely 100% worth the reads. I read the entire cloning guide and am now drowning in a small army of clones. :rofl: ah well.

Updates on your girls since the nutes got scooted up?

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Glad I found here first, never even went looking for any other forums after I landed here

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I’ve visited a few other forums. I never stuck around long enough to experience any negativity.

I’ll say this, the layout and organization of this forum is easy. It’s not hard to find your way around. It makes it easy for us that are slow on the tech stuff.

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Unfortunately, not good. They have yet to take any nutrient, as my PPMs have spiked from the 600 it was reading day of, all the way to 870.

Been keeping the PH stable, as everytjme I got to check it, it jumps up around 6.7 6.8 in between checks.

And their growth is still extremely behind for the time frame. The bigger gal has a bit of that bright plant green in the top middle you want to see, but the rest is a pale dark green, some brittle leaves and whatnot.

I think I’m at the conclusion where this run is a wipe, and when I restart, I’ll be more carful with the way I handle things, and I’ll be starting with better lighting and Nutrients. I’m pretty excited to get things restarted to be honest, even though it’s a little bummer the two didn’t work out.

I’m gonna tag in a few folks here - @Myfriendis410 @Covertgrower @Nicky @peachfuzz @Hellraiser

Not everyone tagged is in straight hydro but they all (I think??) have experience with the hydro-style grow (coco coir is inert so it operates a lot like a plain water reservoir for the purposes of watering and nutrient management)

I don’t think PPMs going up/down indicates whether your plants are consuming nutrients. I’m not 100% about that so that’s why I’m dragging the experienced guys into this. The PH drift seems really strange but I’m not sure what could be causing that other than a lack of something in the water that your plant is searching for.

If you can post photos, that’s most helpful for diagnostic purposes. IMO it’s too early still to give up, but that’s my opinion and if you wanna bag it that’s entirely your call. Hydro is tough to get a handle on. Once you’ve got it, though, there’s nothing better.

PS you’ll know the plants are done because your roots will just shrivel into sad brown strings. If they’re still white and healthy, they’re still getting something done.

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Here’s my group of misfits. My roots are still in tact, white , with a little tint from nutes.

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Hmm. Have you watered the rockwool lately?

I just saw the cube in your photo and realized I went through a random bout of PH weirdness myself a long long time ago (okay I mean like, August). The PH of rockwool can change itself and somewhat abruptly. I’m not real sure about the why, just that it’s something growers warn about. You might try watering your rockwool cubes (directly pouring over the top) with some PH’d water around 5.5. Then collect it back from your reservoir and pour back over the cubes a few times to give them a good soak with a PH between 5.5-5.8. I’m not certain that’s your problem but that could explain why you’re battling such dramatic PH drift.

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I’ll give it a go! Couldn’t hurt at this point !

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That bottom picture, the top growth looks good. Real good. I’d pull the bad leaves and go from there.

A Vegging plant can bounce back. Some of my best plants, I almost killed in the beginning.

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That’s good to hear! Should I give the smaller guy a few more days and if she doesn’t bounce back, pull her? Or run her till she’s a goner?

Run her till your sure she’s a goner imo

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Yep. Every single time. I’ll show you my autos I gave up on here in a few hours. You’ll laugh.

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How much time do you have into her? She looks 3 weeks old? Just a guess. That’s a lot of time down the drain. I’ve been there. It sucks.

My honest opinion is that I think the sledgehammer did it.

I’d rinse those roots good and keep at it for another few days.

Rinse like crazy. With a shower head.

If you’re sitting on a mountain of seeds like me, maybe consider starting one just in case she doesn’t bounce back? Worse case scenario is you scrap a seedling (or buy a brick of coco to play with.)

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The big one is about 4 weeks from seed, and the small is 3 , and has taken it harder than the large one has, as you can tell.

86 the sledgehammer!! Like I said I have some proper nutes and microbes comjng in, that should be here tomorrow or Saturday. And I’ll get to rinsing them now, hopefully they’ll take to the solution a little better.

And I have two seeds of the same strain left. One of the first seedlings I started, rooted upside down in my Rockwool cube, and me being a noob, I didn’t catch it in time, once I did, I mishandled it and killed it, hence why one of these girls are a week behind the other.

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Also, should I start using jacks on them as soon as I get it?

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