Visited the local Hydro shop to try out this Humboldt Tupur soil out. Compared to the Happy Frog, it is a very light soil, nice and fluffy. Happy Frog is mostly peatmoss with “forest materials” and the Humboldt Tupur is CoCo with “forest materials”. So we have enough raw materials in there to do an organic grow. I dumped a cup of Earth Worm castings for safe measure in each pot. I’ll be growing out of my 4x2 infinity tent. The pots are fabric 15 gallons (16inches high 19incheswide) I also amended the soil with a half cup of Craft Blend from Build A Soil. This proprietary dry amendment blend has helped me keep the pH of my soil at a healthy level of 6.5 through it’s entire grow, at least it did for my last grow. 6.5 is perfect for Organic Grows. If your bottle feeding then you’d want that pH to be at about 5.8. But I’m strictly organics for this grow. I drenched the pots with half gallon of a microbe mixture each to get the ball rolling with the breakdown of the amendments to a usable soluble nutrients. We can discuss bottles nutes vs organic here. I’m not for or against neither. I am biased towards organic though. 
You can call this a super soil grow. My seeds are from the highly controversial seed bank, Nukeheads. The reports are you might get lucky with some good seeds, otherwise, your getting Hermies! Anyways, Of the 4 pictured I’ll be picking 2. On the right we have Chem Dawg. To the left we have Acapulco Gold. Sometime this week I’ll transplant 2 lucky ladies into their permanent pots.
Oops… thought I was in the Grow Journal Section… 
I moved this grow journals.
All looks fine to me, but two 15 gallon pots in 2x4? Tent I’m currently using is same shape but 20"x36" and biggest i have put in there is 3 gallon, using synthetics with coco.
The beauty of synthetics, you can get away with smaller pots. Not so much with organics. The bigger the pot, the easier the grow.
Goes without saying. How about the cost? This mainly what drove me away from organics. There was nothing wrong with my organic weed, but my buddies stuff was every bit as good as mine and they did way less using synthetics with same cuts. I spent about $100 2 years ago buying 25# bags of 5-12-26, calcium nitrate, and 15# of epsom. Based on size of my grow you can’t even tell I’ve used any, is essentially a lifetime worth of nutrients. I do add tribus which i estimate a current cost of about $13 per grow.
In short, I’ve got you on follow and want to see how this turns out. A 15 gallon fabric is about a full bag of media right?
Yes, that’s correct, a full bag of media. I mixed both bags together before adding them to the pots. Thanks for the follow.
I had two ten gallon pots in there already established and matured. Gone through 3 grows with them. Same soil all three grows, reused the Happy Frog, Kinda of like a no till style. But I had an accident bringing in an outside plant in, Big mistake, long story short, everything got thrown out and the tent sterilized. So starting all over. organic pots usually take a month to get established and matured so I’m taking a risk here just starting off just like that. hoping the soil isn’t too hot. Decided to use the Coco mix to help with drainage and root growth. The popular Mr. Canucks has had success with Coco so I thought I’d give some of it a try before knocking it. In my eyes Coco is best used for synthetic nutes. So new territory here for me mixing it in with the Happy Frog. if all goes well I could use this soil for another four grows or so. Organics. And never bring a clone or plant from outside!!
If you get the mixture sorted out and running smooth i don’t see why you couldn’t use it multiple times. I have rinsed and reharged coco multiple times without issue. Not really worth effort anymore though. My local shop sells 2 ft³ bag of 70/30 for $15. On size of my grow only need 1-2 bags a year. Then i just dump pots out in empty corner of garden when done. When looking to work with soil have been buying roots original, i think it’s closer to what you’re looking for than just ff stuff.
You have a system in place, excellent. I don’t have to rinse anything. just plug n play almost. top amendment twice a grow and that’s it, no measuring out feedings, no checking the pH of the water. Simple.
Did the transplant real quick on my lunch hour. Motivation is an energy booster. 
Was recommended to use Mykos to get the roots a booster. Mykos- Pure Mycorrhizal Inoculant.
Mycorrhiza (from Greek μύκης mýkēs, “fungus”, and ῥίζα rhiza, “root”; pl. mycorrhizae, mycorrhiza or mycorrhizas[1]) is a symbiotic association between a fungus and a plant.[2] The term mycorrhiza refers to the role of the fungus in the plant’s rhizosphere, its root system. Mycorrhizae play important roles in plant nutrition, soil biology, and soil chemistry.
Don’t know the breeder so hope it works out. Too much goes into getting thing going and growing to bomb before the good stuff starts.
I guess you don’t have to move the pots much. I like to train the plants etc so the smaller and lighter the better.
The most common living soil organic stuff I see around here is earth dust from The Green Sunshine Co.
Great White is another good myco product. I use it with seedlings and all transplants. I’ll also vouch for Tribus as well as FishSh’t. Both are excellent and use both with good result.
Welcome and have a great grow. Will be checking in.
Thanks @beardless I’ve learned so much these past two years, wanted to give back a little. Hoping I can contribute a little and maybe learn something at the same time. I started with bottled nutes with Pineapple Express. Seems like yesterday but I think it was 2 years ago? Thread somewhere around here. I bought the beans from ILTG. Despite the grow being an almost disaster…best smoke EVER. A member from another forum convinced me to try organic grows. And I thought I was to be honest. Had no idea bottled nutes we’re considered synthetic. That’s how green I was. My first choice of amendment was this Earth Dust you talked about . I’m since gone to Craft Blend. It’s just amazing at buffering the soil at a constant 6.5. Happy Frog after it breaks down a little just naturally drops in pH. So Dolomite Limestone helps tremendously. One of my biggest game changers when I learned that one. And Tribus!! I’m a believer,my goodness, that stuff is amazing when used during flower.
I used Advanced Nutrients Organic Iguana Juice plus a bunch of supplements for a couple grows. The plants did well enough and I learned from it. Took the jump to coco a Jacks for top fed and autopot plants. Last year I stole space from our monstrous garage and added a grow closet for 3 scrog frames with autopots. Having a blast. This is my journal GDP to start the new year
It start with seed drop the first of the year and am now about to start harvesting the clones.
I’ll check it out, thanks. I just finished up some Autos couple weeks ago. White Widow and Lemon Haze from Seedsman. In the same pot I had grown some photos in. All I do is pull the main bulb out, fill in a little dirt where the bulb was and plant the seed. Just super simple. The roots of the prior grows just break down and become part of the soil. With organics you simply take care of the soil. With synthetics your directly Taking care of the plant, pH is super important with this style of grow. Organics is taking care of the soil. No need to monitor the pH of the water when your taking care of the soil. As long as the pH isn’t crazy off, have to put that out there. Let’s be real. The soil, once mature with it’s biological microbes, bacteria, and fungi, will in turn take care of the plant, feeding it what it needs when it needs it. Just keep the soil healthy. Healthy soil,healthy plant. Organics. Here’s what’s in the craft blend…
- Thorvin Premium Kelp Meal
- Karanja Cake
- Alfalfa Meal
- BuildASoil Organic High P Bran
- Camelina Meal
- Crustacean Meal
- Fish Meal
- 3x Fish Bone Meal
- Soybean Meal
- Sul-Po-Mag (Also Known as K-Mag or Langbeinite)
- Organic Malted Barley
- Volcanic Tuff
- Micronized Basalt - Blue Ridge Meta
- Gypsum
- Oyster Flour
Lot more than what’s in the Earth Dust. I still have a lot of the Bloom Earth Dust left, I added and mixed my own amendments in there, like seabird quano and don’t remember what else.
I also use during veg from that Dudes Grow Show…those guys are awesome, Scotty’s Recharge. Only when needed which is rare.
Only during veg,
Then when flower hits I use the Tribus
So my plan is to flip this grow at the end of September. Since my tent is small, (2x4) I can get away by flipping early. I do lot of trimming to leave me just the buds almost. Been working out. Here’s the last photo I grew before the autos, Blue Dream, all in the same pot (10 gallon), no rinsing involved.
I looked at Build a soil before I deciding to go with Advanced Nutrients. Looks like you’ve got your system down and fine tuned. Where we all want to be no matter what the medium is or nutrients used.
Just found your thread, very nice.
Hey thanks anyway, I mean it, I’ll check that Advanced Nutrients out, I’m always open to different ideas and techniques. Catch you on your thread. 
First testing of the soil this evening, all seems good, nothing too out of wack. I don’t think the soil will mature till the end of September. Initial setup of these two pots got me on my toes. My last grow I over did it with the nutes, Nitrogen Toxicity. Seems like Autos don’t need much to prosper. So back to my comfort zone with these photoperiods for now. I’m thinking the next time I do Autos I’ll strictly stick to a 4-4-4 npk feed regimen. Something from Down To Earth maybe. Less is more sometimes?
It is good stuff but I have moved on Jack’s. Jack’s is a far cry from organic living soils. I still use guite a few AN supplements and I think they compliment Jack’s nicely.
I had an interesting phenomenon last night after a little watering, half gallon per pot. I have a side note about that, but about this happening I noticed with one of the ladies. The top leaves tacoed!? Taco Tuesday? I’ve only seen this with light and heat stress, and my lights are 35 inches above the canopy right now. I’m thinking that top leaves that taco are also related to over watering now. They were flat this morning, back to normal. Anyways, I saw it somewhere that the best time to water is in the mornings that the roots like to breath when the lights go out, so I’ll practice watering in the mornings from now on.