Deficiency/excess?! What’s wrong

Hey friends. Can anyone help me with this dilemma? This is a GSCE from ILGM and it seemed to be doing great until a couple days ago it looked like small patches of the lower fan leaves started fading in color in the margins. It got worse progressively yesterday and today when I opened the tent the leaves had completely started to wilt. They are dry and crispy. The pH of the soil is 6.22. I have not fed them yet and I am using FF ocean forest soil. My light is at least 4 feet above plants. 3 of my 4 plants are Affected in the same fashion.

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Need some more information.

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What strain, Seed bank, or bag seed
• Method: Soil w/salt, Organic soil, Hydroponics, Aquaponics, KNF
Soil brand and type
Fox farm ocean forest
• Vessels: Pots, Grow beds, Buckets, Troths
3 gallon fabric pots
• PH of Water, Solution, runoff (if Applicable)
PH of soil in root zone is 6.3-6.5
• PPM/TDS or EC of nutrient solution if applicable

• Indoor or Outdoor
• Light system
Kind LED x450
• Temps; Day, Night
• Humidity; Day, Night
• Ventilation system; Yes, No, Size
Yes 6 inch intake with dust shroom 4 inch exhaust a/c infinity
• AC, Humidifier, De-humidifier,
• Co2; no

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Do those leaves get wet when watering and touch the soil?

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No my friend

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They are touching soil now because I LST other day

@Graysin hey man, do I have this posted somewhere where nobody can see it. Usually get a few responses. Thanks for your help

Hi there. How much are you watering? Can u get the runoff numbers? Everything sounds ok. the first few leaves are usually wonky. U can cut those off. What is light set at? does it have a dimmer?

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Sorry boss, I was headed home from work.

I’ll grab a few folks who can help keep an eye - they’re usually around when I’m not. @Underthestairs @Caligurl @Newt @HappyHydroGrower

How are you measuring pH?

How old are your gals? Sorry if you said already.

Also what nutrients, if any, are you using?

I measure pH with a specialized soil pH pen by Hanna and I have not fed them yet

They popped 24 days ago

Hey @kaptain3d @OGIncognito @MeEasy @JJ520 @Oldguy does anybody know much about ff ocean forest soil?

They kinda look like they might be hungry? :+1:t2::v::sunglasses:


Ocean forest feeds up to 6 weeks

It almost looks to me like she got burnt earlier but it may have been sorted out? Did you recently raise your light?


What kind of water do you use tap if it’s outa whack it can f things up try using ro may make a lot of difference I had similar issues with my tap to was the fix for me only used tap a short time , they do look light colored like there hungry do run off or slurry test to confirm # :v:


Idk if you and Under remember my first plant way back in the day, she was in FFOF and I was stunned that right around the 4 week mark of being in fresh soil she started getting hungry. I couldn’t believe it cuz everyone said it would feed for so long.

It may be a hungry plant on your hands.

I’m gonna go out on a limb based on my own ocean forest woes and state pretty outright she looks like she’s hungry for phosphorus.

I would start by watering to runoff when you water her next. Then, add a light dose of nutrients with some P.

If you’re using the Fox Farms nutrient line, it’s time for some Tiger Bloom (just a little, perhaps 1/8th of a dose suggested by the back of the bottle). If you have a different nutrient line, let us know - someone here will have used it and should have some guidance.

That’s just my 2 cents. It doesn’t look like she’s overwhelmed by the Ocean Forest to me.


The FFOF is the hottest medium FF makes and generally feeds for approximately 6 weeks. What was your PPMS from the run off, your run off PH looks good :love_you_gesture:

They look generally hungry.

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Hi, I can’t tell if it’s the light creating the different colors or if the bottom leaves are a lot darker. If the bottom leaves are much darker then the top it may just be that the soil was a little bit hot for it and now it has adjusted to the soil but to be sure maybe try watering it with just ph’ed water and check runoff ppm if the run off is still high than you really shouldn’t have to add anything. I use FFOF and have found most bags are 1900-2100 ppm but some are very low 400-900 ppm so it could be either way, it could be hungry also but the runoff should tell the tale. I hope this helps!

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