Brown spots and dry leaves

Hey!

We were doing well for three weeks. Then I gave her 500ml water on Thursday. The next day, the lower leaves were not happy.


Checked the soil yesterday morning; too was very dry, and it was dry 3 inches down. The Ph of the degassed tap water I used was 8.3, so I added 1/8 tsp apple cider vinegar to 500 ml water and watered her again.

This morning, the leaves are worse


She’s already stunted, so I’ve been nursing her along to keep learning, and hoping to bring her to a little harvest.

My first guess is I overwatered her (soil on top was bone dry).
Second guess is PH.
Third is light/heat stress. The temps hover around 25-27° and the humidity 40-50%

I’d really appreciate the wisdom of the experienced to help me get her back to health (or give her a proper burial and start over).

Thanks!!

Specs:
2x2x4.5 tent
Ts 600 LED light 24 in above plant
6 inch fan, blowing just over the top leaves
RQS Amnesia Haze feminized seed started in a peat pod, transferred to FFOF

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First grower here so not a lot of exp but managed to bring my seedling to be a beautiful flowering creature. I used a humidifer a lot, half day blowing mist on the seedling, half day on the wall near it. They love high humidity 70+ at this stage, it helps as they gather water from the leaves. Your seedling looks like its been underwatered to me, leaves look crips. I decided the make the over/under water decision by (with my limited experience) observing the leaves, crips are under and fat (full of water inside) are over. They also don’t like a lot of light at this stage I experimented with 800 PPFD and it was too much, she really liked the 500 ballpark. In fact, the light manufacturer was right I used at 25% intesity (my light is a Viparspectra XS1500). So I recommend you check and follow what yours says regarding height and intensity, and then adjust down instead of up. A fellow grower brought to my knowledge a nice mobile phone software to check PPFD, its called Photone. Happy growing, I’m sure she will thrive and provide a lot of joy.

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Ah, also my watering schedule, if it helps to inspire you, (using a 15L pot mind) was very little at seedling stage. Every 4-5 days I’d drop ~300ML in a ring around the plant never at the base but 3-4 cm from it.

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Congrats on making it to flower, @bytearray !

And thank you for the feedback! I turned the humidifier back on and raised the light. Hopefully she’ll bounce back.

I’m using a 15 L fabric pot also and watering in a ring away from the seeding. I’m going to incorporate the specifics you added to develop a better watering cycle. But, really, I think the humidity and light distance are the culprits.

Happy growing!

Whats type of soil are you in ? Def raise your humidity. Want at least 60% or better… she looks hungry

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Hi @ChittyChittyBangin ,

I’m using Fox Farms Ocean Floor. I have the Advanced Nutrients grow, micro, bloom perfect ph set, but I haven’t added any yet. I thought it was too soon at three week and as stunted as she is. Do you think I should add some? Maybe 1/4 of what’s recommended?

Thank you for the guidance!

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Do you have a Ph and TDS meter ? If so, do a quick soil slurry and check your numbers. That way we can rule out ph. Ive seen where FF would come out of the bag in the mid 5s so it would lock out nutes during veg. If youre in a 5 gal container, rule of thumb is 30 to 45 days worth of nutes.

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I used FFOF for a long time and it was great. I didn’t use it for years and when I started using it again over the last year or two I had pretty mixed results. Not sure what happened, but I have been losing faith in Fox Farm.

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Hey @ChittyChittyBangin if hes using the 3 part from Advanced nutrients you definitely dont want to mess with the ph in any way. They’re made to do their own thing regardless of ph, i have one plant ph is 5.2 and the other high 6’s, both growing regardless. Ph up and down etc will mess with those nutes terribly

EDIT My bad, didnt see he hadnt used it yet

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Hey @ChittyChittyBangin

So, the ph of my water was 7.9 (degassed tap). The slurry was 6.8. A bit off, but not terrible?

@Dinky I’ve been seeing the same feedback here and on Reddit…after I got this one started.

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@Pancake you want your ph for veg to be 6.0 to 6.5 anything above 6.5 will lock out your veg nutes.

Edit… did you use distilled water or tap for your slurry? You want to use distilled. No ph value and no tds value

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Got it! I’ll focus on lowering the ph. I had a feeling it was going to be an issue.

Thanks much @ChittyChittyBangin !

Eta: I used tap…I’ll redo it with distilled.

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Ok…the ph is 6.4 with the distilled water slurry.

Should I take it down a bit, just to be safe?

Thanks so much @ChittyChittyBangin

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What your ppm of the slurry?

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PPM: 309 or 314…I don’t recall the exact number

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Bingo. Feed away… you want your ppms between 700 and 1100

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Got it! Thanks so much. Will update after feeding. 🫶🏻

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I would ph next feed at 6.0 to 6.2 and around 800 ppms so you don’t shock them. Get your runoff numbers near 1000 ppm in next few feeds. Check runoff weekly to make sure ph and ppm stays in line.

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