Yes it’s funny you say that, I did notice after some nutrient changes she’ll eat 250-300 ppms in a day. Then nothing for a few days, then next thing I know I’m already doing a nute change again heh
And thank you! I’ve been working hard on this grow. I unquestionably started waaaay over my head. But it happens I suppose
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Under the skirts are looking great! Nice job on that, it’ll help tremendously with your RH and air flow 
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Was it really way over your head or just not expecting the fast growth.
I think almost every hydro grower I’ve seen, including myself, there first plant or two in hydro gets way out of control… quick! They stretch fast.
You’re doing great. All you can do is keep trying to keep them down. You got this! Keep’em growin! 
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You’re a natural! Looks like that is about as good as you can get it.
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Heh thank you guys so much! Really really appreciate the kind words.
A big relief to know I’m on the right track still.
Well I guess it was a bit of both. I wasn’t aware of the growth spurt once they transition into flower 
But I’ll keep on doing what I’m doing! I can’t imagine how much this might yield all together
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Wow that looks crazy! I pulled out big B, today when the lights came on I checked the PH and it was sitting at 4.2. So quickly got it out of there and soaked in some 6.0 water for about an hour then refreshed nutes.
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Hey everyone. Got a question…
So my big plant has started to become out of control. It is so difficult to keep up with. It’s in a 5 gallon bucket, it drinks about 1.5-2 gallons a day.
Question is, would it hurt the plant in any way if I were to transfer it from the bucket to a 18gallon tote. The tote is 2” shorter so that would help move it from the light.
But the roots are completely shaped to the inside of the bucket, would moving to a tote that’s a little bit shorter be ok?
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You’ll be just fine to move her. Be very gentle with the roots and when you lift her out of the bucket, try to give her some support underneath the root mass. I did some major damage to one of my plants by lifting her out of the water without giving her adequate support. As far as being shorter than the bucket, should be no big deal. The roots will spread out to where they can get comfortable.
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@Graysin thank you so much! That is good to know.
One other thing Graysin, after these past 2 nute changes I’ve done, I have found a lot of really small roots floating in the bucket. Almost look shredded. They don’t seem to have had any negative impact on the plant. But it is quite strange.
And also I think moving to a bigger container for her could be extra beneficial, as the past 2 feedings I’ve done; 950 ppms @ 6.0 ph.
Exactly 3 days after both times the ph has spiked hard down to 4.2-4.5 . I understand the concentration of the nutrients and lower levels of water, but it only happens 3 days after.
For instance:
6-30-22 960 ppm @ 5.9
7-1 675 ppm @ 6.3
Topped off
7-2. 645 ppm @ 6.3
7-3. 605 ppm @ 4.2 ph
Nute change on 7-3 because of ph spike. I soaked in 6.0 water for 1 hour before changing nutes and cleaning bucket.
7-3 950 ppm @ 6.1 ph
7-4. 575 ppm @ 6.5 ph
7-5. 560 ppm @ 6.3
7-6. 530 ppm @ 4.2 ph
Immediately soaked again and nute change
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For what it’s worth. And it may not be worth much. But my thoughts are many in this circumstance.
In soil and coco coir, the roots are subject to a wet/dry cycle and there’s a medium around the root zone that retains microbial life. In water, there is nothing to maintain and harbor the microbial life. We combat this fact by introducing regular doses of Hydroguard - but I have personally observed that the longer I go between doing a totally fresh water change out, the happier my roots tend to be. That is to say, old water retains some of the microbial life, and allows the root zone to be more self-sustaining. Totally fresh water “resets” the cycle every time you change the water.
I also noticed that Hydroguard has an insanely low concentration of bacillus ami…floriqu… something ens. I could look it up and sound smart but frankly I’ll never remember anyway. Check into Southern Ag Garden Friendly Fungicide. It’s much less expensive and a much higher concentration of the exact same strain of Bacillus that hydro guard uses. I use GFF instead with great results.
Point here being, you may be throwing out the baby with the bath water. All the good microbes and totally fresh nutrients are going down the drain with a 100% water change. I am a huge proponent of just letting things drift - if your pH tanks massively like that, adjust it up with a touch of pH up, silica, or baking soda (not my strongest recommendation because actual sodium can eventually damage your plants, but most everyone has some in their kitchen to help adjust pH up til the cavalry arrives). The general rule of thumb is 3x your water volume replenished before you need to replace. So if you had a 20 gallon tank, you could add up to 60 more gallons to that reservoir before you should even be worried about doing a total water change out.
A lot of this is like maintaining an aquarium cycle. Too much fresh water can crash the cycle and introduce bad nasties. I don’t think you have that problem, but I think lack of the appropriate microbes in your root zone may be responsible for your lady tanking her own pH so dramatically. Just adjust it back up, and let it ride til it’s too low again. Then readjust up some more.
Probably got too close to the air stones. My plants either seem to grow roots in to the stone and start to break it apart, or they grow too close and get “boiled” apart.
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Wow. That’s a serious dose of useful information! Thanks a million boss
@Graysin
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Hey everyone, another question here. @Graysin @HappyHydroGrower or anyone really.
Have you ever grown through flower completely with a trellis? Would it maybe work? Or should I start looking for alternative ways if there is any.
I don’t know if i gimped the plant, or this is common. Anyways she 100% can’t support the buds on her own. The stems are tragically small I guess. Got a serious lean going on
Side note, moved ‘B’ into the tote today. Was rough getting that root base to fit in a smaller hole
But it did help create a lot more distance between the light, so that’s a plus. And bigger rez of course
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I have had to do a few things to support my plants.
One grow I got 6’ bamboo stakes and duct taped them to the outside of my bubble bucket and propped my gal up against those.
I have recently begun using plant yo-yos more and more for things. My entire grow looks like this:
Dunno if you can see the clear/white fishing lines hanging from the lights, but there’s small yellow hooks on just about every light fixture - each hook is holding up a cola.
I know HHG uses a net for his entire grow - don’t honestly know enough about playing with nets to know if it’s a SOG, scrog, or somethin’ else. It is masterful work, though, and if you can get your brain wrapped around it, that’s the way to go. Haven’t figured out why but my brain just dead stops at the idea of nets. Haven’t needed it bad enough to overcome the mental barrier - probably will some day.
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Wow… a look inside the grandmasters setup. That’s wild man, just so many little tips and tricks picked up all collaborated into what you need
Ha I was looking forward to using one! But without a proper support system, using the net in DWC is impractical for sure. Every nute change I have to remove the net and all that. But I think in the long run it might work. I’m trying to be somewhat meticulous about weaving the buds. Just that girl is wild and out!
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Good job on the transplant to the tote!
A trellis net is really good for what your doing… support.
While some folks can scrog with a trellis net, I find it easier to scrog with something a little more firm. Something that doesn’t give as much. That plant will ouch something up if you don’t have it firm enough to hold them down.
Now that you have a tote, next grow you can attach a scrog to your tote if you want to try a scrog.
Just use zip ties to attach a pvc frame to your totes and build from that… easy peasy!
Keep’em growin!
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Thanks man, appreciate that. It was tricky but very beneficial since it’s a bit shorter top of the plant isn’t getting blasted by the light.
Dude that pvc setup is legit!! You’ve got to send me the schematics or blueprint
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@HappyHydroGrower is your entire grow room covered in windshield visors? Haha bet that works real good for insulation and reflection
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Haha! Haven’t thought about using windshield visor. I guess it would work in a pinch.
Actually it’s reflectix and you can get a 4’x 100’ from Lowes and staple it to the wall.
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Love your set up! Wish i could do something like this. Did you build your totes as well as your trellis?
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Yah!! Was wondering the same, spill the beans on this Elite system you got going @HappyHydroGrower
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