Once again I fell down the rabbit hole! The options for LED lighting is one of the most overwhelming things I’ve ever had to deal with. Lol. I posted on here before about which light to purchase between the HLG Scorpion Diablo or the new Kind X750. I opted for the x750 after hearing opinions and talking to the seller. The Kind comes with the dimmable red, ir, and uv so decided to give it a go. Now the Scorpion Diablo is on sale for 20% off. I don’t exactly need it at the moment but figured if I was ever going to get it now would be the time during the sale. After speaking with Grow Light Depot he also suggested the Mammoth Mint 6 Bar. Said it’s a little cheaper and almost as efficient as the Diablo. The Diablo on sale is 200 more than the Mammoth but I’m not really using price as a determining factor. Furthermore, reading through forums and searching around, a lot of people ask about the Scorpion Diablo and there are always people saying the Scynce Raging Kush II blows the Diablo out of the water. I just want what is going to give me quality dense buds. Currently in a 4x4 tent. Looking for some opinions here. Links to all three lights posted below for reference and comparison. Thanks in advance!
I would be curious as to what data was used to come up with that determination. Probably somewhere between nothing and having an affiliate link to profit from.
Please don’t link ledgrowlightsdepot here as they aren’t an approved vendor.
I just keep seeing this Raging Kush every time someone asks about the Diablo. I think the same thing a lot of times when a light is recommended. I’m always thinking there is some kind of affiliation or just matter of opinion from someone who only used the brand of their preference with no basis to compare to the other in question. I’m looking for honest opinions from people who have actually used the lights successfully that I’m inquiring about or actually did the their own side by side comparisons and determined one was better than the other. I hear great things about the Scorpion Diablo but then you also see people saying bar lighting is superior to quantum board or such and such light is better. With so many options to choose from it is very difficult to get a straightforward answer. I also apologize linking to Grow Light Depot. I did not know it wasn’t allowed.
If everything else is equal the light with greater light emitting surface is usually superior, because the light source and pattern are more diffuse. Using 6 narrow but longer boards in place of 6 wider boards doesn’t appear to be greater LES, it may even be less. This comparison doesn’t apply to the typical argument that was made when the comparison was 4 boards from flagship hlg light vs 8 2"x4’ boards on nearest competitors bar lights. The two light designs are basically the same. That being said, the Diablo is nearly 25% more light and 16% more efficient. And it’s also cheaper. So everything else isn’t equal in tbis case, and there is no significant design improvement.
It’s your money though, spend it how you want. If you want a better light than hlg go check out chilled tech growcraft ultra.
Just so I’m understanding correctly, would you say that the Diablo is better than the Mammoth and the Raging Kush or was your comparison to the Raging Kush only?
It’s a better light than the Raging kush. The Mammoth light i wasn’t even aware was shipping yet, so i have no idea. Their earlier lights were decent at their price point, but not as good as they were hyped in my opinion.
Every time one of these companies come out with a new light they send a few out for people to create some buzz on them. Then it dies off and most that buy them are sitting around wondering if they made the right move. This kinda seems like what may have happened with your purchase of the x750. If you believed it was the best light for you we probably wouldn’t be here a month later just because the 420 sales are now active.
Thank you for your responses. I appreciate the information. I’m just now trying out the x750 so I can’t fully speak on it yet but definitely had a lot of hype around it and I guess you could say some good marketing and I was swayed. If I can ask you one more question, do you think I would be happy with the Diablo if I were to purchase? If it was your money would you consider it money well spent?
i stumbled upon the HLG show on youtube. watching there videos will make you feel warm and fuzzzy inside if you invest a large amt of $ on there lights. If anyone is thinking about buying a light go listen to the HLG show and the way they developed / came up with the light.
If for nothing else I would buy lights from hlg solely based on their history of customer service. It just also happens that their lights perform as good or better than just about all of their competition. The one thing they maybe don’t really focus on with their lights is features and frills. Things like having a foldable fixture, switchable control channels, or sunrise to sunset dimming. This stuff looks great on paper but doesn’t really change anything about how your grows perform.
I’ll tell you how I came to appreciate HLG. I had seen plenty of good reviews, but I’m also skeptical about people’s motivations sometimes, and I had fixtures that I was very happy with, so I didn’t pay HLG much mind.
Then I ended up in a situation where I overcrowded my grows and needed to split things up. I have a friend who tried growing and decided almost immediately it wasn’t for him. He had bought an HLG 300Rspec, and offered it to me at a great price. The timing was perfect because I needed another light, so I got it. At the time, I had a Nextlight Mega in my closet grow, a Grow 300 in my 2 1/2 x 5 tent, and an ES300 in my 2x4 tent. So I set the 300Rspec up and was immediately impressed with how much light a little fixture like that produced. Over the next several weeks I noticed that the plants really seemed to be thriving under her, and it continued that way through the rest of the grow.
So over the next year or so I replaced each fixture with an HLG whenever I could afford to, and now that’s all I have. I got the Scorpion Diablo in the closet, 350R’s in the tents, and I still keep the 300Rspec for when I screw up and start too many plants, lol.
I can’t speak about the other fixture you’re looking at, but I can say with certainty that my HLG fixtures work better than any other lights I’ve ever used.
BTW thank you @dbrn32 dbrn for your recommendation on the HLG brand 4 years ago. Have been very pleased with the results! Glad i listened to you. I recomend the OP do so as well!
Thanks all!
I have a scorp diablo and I love it. They put out well more than enough power to grow in a 4x4 in in a 4x7x8 room and I cannot turn it up past the 7th or 8th click on it or I fry plants. To run them at full power and not damAge plants I’ll need to run co2 but the light itself is def worth the hype. It’s a great light and comes with superior customer service. @JJ520 has one also and he loves it also. Neither of us used the raging kush but I won’t compare any lights to hlg much as nothing holds up like hlg does.
Most definitely I have a scorp Diablo and a 650r with the Diablo boards I love them both you just can’t go wrong with hlg.
Anyone else use California light works??
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Thank you but already run an CLW just seeing if anyone else likes them here
Yes. You can find those opinions in previous posts as well.
Someone with recent experience may also chime in. I have no opinion of them, but people seem to like them even though few use them.
Right on