Total Newbie with first plant questions

Can anyone tell me whether this looks normal for a plant that’s about 4 weeks old?


Thanks.

She does not look happy. Not sure what your medium is, soil? Either way when I zoom on that baggy you’ve got her in it looks like a bundle of roots pushing against sides and it kinda looks likes it’s being pushed up out of the pot. I would guess she wasn’t able to bust through and is root bound. If it’s a photoperiod you could attempt trimming the bound roots and repotting her. Any more info?

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COPY/PASTE the below list into your forum post.

Answer these simple questions the best you can.
If you do not know, or do not use something; Just say so; Or post
NA (non applicable)

-What strain, Seed bank, or bag seed (photo or auto)
-Age of plant
-Method: Soil w/salt, Organic soil, Hydroponics, Aquaponics, KNF
-Vessels: Type and capacity of container (fabric, plastic, etc)
-PH and TDS of Water, Solution, runoff (if Applicable)
-PPM/TDS or EC of nutrient solution if applicable
-Method used to measure PH and TDS
-Indoor or Outdoor if indoor, size of grow space
-Light system List brand and wattage/spectrum
-Actual wattage draw of lights
-Current Light Schedule
-Temps; Day, Night
-Humidity; Day, Night
-Ventilation system; Yes, No, Size
-AC, Humidifier, De-humidifier,
-Co2; Yes, No

If growing Hydro some additional questions:

-DWC? RDWC? Autopots? Ebb and Flow? Other?
-Distance of liquid below net pot (DWC)
-Temperature of reservoir
-TDS of nutrient solution
-Amount of air to solution

Always try to upload a clear picture in white light of any issues you may have to allow the community to assist you.

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When I use the peet pods for starters, I always cut the netting so that when I up-pot, I can take the netting off. At this stage she should be in her forever home anyway.

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It’s always a good idea to master the basics first when learning to grow.

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What strain, Seed bank, or bag seed (photo or auto)

It is a feminized seed from ILGM. I don’t remember the strain.

-Age of plant

About four weeks.

-Method: Soil w/salt, Organic soil, Hydroponics, Aquaponics, KNF

Supersoil and potting soil I got from A Pot for a Pot. It was part of a kit.

-Vessels: Type and capacity of container (fabric, plastic, etc)

Fabric pot.

-PH and TDS of Water, Solution, runoff (if Applicable)

Not applicable

-PPM/TDS or EC of nutrient solution if applicable

Not applicable
-Method used to measure PH and TDS

Not applicable

-Indoor or Outdoor if indoor, size of grow space

Indoor. It’s in a .5 gallon pot
-Light system List brand and wattage/spectrum

It’s an LED light from Lordem.

-Actual wattage draw of lights

Says 15w draw but 30w output equivalent

-Current Light Schedule

I’ve kept it under 24 hour light.

-Temps; Day, Night

In the house. Not a special room. Room temperature. I live in the northeast US.

-Humidity; Day, Night

Don’t know.

-Ventilation system; Yes, No, Size

No.

-AC, Humidifier, De-humidifier,

Yes, but it’s winter so….

-Co2; Yes, No

No

Thanks very much for your advice.

Thanks. The instructions for the jiffy pellet said keep the wrap on. And the appearance is misleading since I didn’t bury it all the way I think.

So you think I should move it to another pot?

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Greetings. I suggest you break that pod a little bit and place in a bigger pot. That thing is ready to explode once given the right room to grow. Looks like is choking there.

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Get that Jiffy pod fabric from around the root ball and transplant to a bigger pot. The fabric will make them root bound!

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First things first. Take every peat pot you have and immediately throw them in the trash. Deprogram your brain to never think of them again. Now that you’ve completed that, try to get that plant out of that peat, and into some good soil immediately. It’s dying the way it is now.

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Better words were never spoken haha!

Cannabis needs a lot of light. You will need around 150 actual watts of LED’s to grow out your plant. This is contributing to the issues seen.

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Move it and break the barrier off the peat pot. :+1:t5:

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Recommendations for a suitable light?

Keep in mind im just a casual hobbyist. Not looking for a large operation.

Thanks!

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I’ll say that anything on Amazon is suspect with just a couple of exceptions. Horticulture Lighting Group makes top of the line lights sized for different grow spaces. I would go to their website and look around, then post your questions here to help fine tune your purchase.

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You will look at the vendor you suggest. Thsnks.

Would you be willing to also identify the exceptions on Amazon? Kust very convenient to order from them. Thanks

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The top companies are HLG, California Lightworks, CHILled Tech, Green Beam. Spider Farmer makes both low and high end lights.

The thing you want to see is actual wattage draws and type of LED used. A lot of companies are making claims about their lights that are simply not true. It’s very deceptive marketing. I like HLG because they provide test data on their lights through an independent testing facility and don’t inflate their claims.

A few years ago, the wattage draw was kind of the basic metric with 50 watts per square foot being standard. LED’s have improved to the point where you are looking at 25 to 30 watts per square foot to produce dense flower.

You also want to look at the area being lit as a small fixture has small coverage.

I went the diy route years ago because I had aluminum heatsink material available to me for free which reduced my cost significantly. If you are handy this is something you can do at home.

One benefit of high efficiency LED’s is reduced heat and electrical costs. The first month I switched from cheap blurple fixtures to my new lights, the utility bill went down $60. That adds up.

Many of us would be happy to give support to your decision. You can use the @ sign in front of folks to tag them in. Like this: @Caligurl @MidwestGuy @Freebirdmikes @Graysin etc.

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I run green beams lighting and I’m fully satisfied with the product. Like you @Edmond-Dantes I grow casually indoor. Making the choice to purchase a decent quality light was difficult for me due to budget. With some recommendations from members here I decided to upgrade from a couple $44 full spectrum lights that were working, just left lots to be desired.



Here’s my girls under the green beams, coming up on 4 weeks flower

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Man those are a thing of beauty. :star_struck:

Here’s mine under the 240 green beam


She’s a little rough around the edges. :joy:

When it comes to lights, HLG with Diablo boards is the Cadillac of lighting. If you can snag a 650R or a Scorpion Diablo refurbished (REFURB is always good for 20% off), that’s the best bang for your buck you’re ever gonna get. Next on my list is Green Beams, solely because they’re “last year’s model” HLG at a much lower price (although the parts are inferior, it’s by a slim margin and my plants don’t seem to care much).

Here’s a couple ladies under the HLG - you can see my Green Beams gal slumping forward in one of those pics, too.


Regarding Amazon.
This is what I would buy if I needed to get lights specifically off Amazon (due to gift cards, rural addressing, etc)
https://a.co/d/j2BkAoE
Note it’s only 130 watts, so it’s good for 1 plant/a 2x2 tent but not much beyond that. It’s a bit $$$ for the output (you could easily pick up the 240w Green Beams for maybe $30 more).

Those are my two cents on lighting. Feel free to ask away about any other elements of the grow - I’ve made all the mistakes a new grower can make and then some, chances are good I’ve got experience with it or know who does. :100:

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This is a crazy small difference between the LM301B and H it merely produces 2 more lumins using the same voltage input. Samsung claims it’s an improvement of a whopping 5%, imho and in my mathematical findings 5% gained efficiency isn’t worth the 50% difference in price.
Don’t get me wrong HLG is the superior product. Just not what I’m in the market for at this time!

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Definitely - the difference isn’t in the Samsung diodes, it’s in the deep reds. HLG uses Osram; where Green Beams uses Epistar. My understanding from @dbrn32 is that isn’t a negligible difference in quality. Thankfully I have supplemental UV/IR hanging independently throughout my room so if there’s a difference I’m just not privy to it. And frankly most of us as home growers just trying to grow something to smoke probably don’t need the Cadillacs of the deep red world.

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