The good, the bad and the ugly

Ok I’ll post pics later today.
Good plant


Bad plant <— need help with this one

Ugly plant

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Strain: Acapulco gold
Soil medium
Transferred 4 weeks ago to 5 gal pot from 3 gal
Ph in 6.8 out 6.4
Temp: 70-82 night/day
Led and t5 lights
Rh 30-40%
Last feeding just calmag
It was sickly before and just seems to be struggling with something
Dark leaves and claw and some yellowing on edges of leave say nitrogen toxicity to me so my plan was to flush with 6.8 ph water only next watering

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Second week of flower btw
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I was gunna ask for a pic with straight light cuz I thought it kind of looked like a Calmag deficiency but I see you watered with Calmag… How hard do you hit em with nutes? Maybe there’s a build up in the soil from past feeds. If you have a ppm meter you can check the water you put in and then test if the ppms go down on the run off. I grow hydro though so to me ur idea of a flush sounds bout right from things I’ve read on this and other sites

Hi guys @Fever @Tonyb

I would say the clawed leaves are nitrogen toxicity.

What soil are you using?

Watering frequency and how much water?

Other nutrients besides cal-mag?

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Ffof
Same nutes as the “good” plant:
1/4 strength sensi bloom a/b
Cal mag
Plain water every other watering

5 gal bucket water every 3 days

So what’s different between the two? Have you been watering to runoff?

I’m thinking a flush. Don’t know what else to tell you. Nothing is jumping out at me that’s for sure.

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Oh yes I wouldn’t come here if it was simple. I know I have tmv and it’s affecting this plant more than the rest it seems. I always wondered how I got it. This plant itself may have been the original host? It just has been struggling for so long even before the transplant although the transplant helped (mykoz was sprinkled in), it never made me feel confident. The “good” plant just did great after the transplant and kept thriving. Some folks say bad genes and cull it. This is not a seed from ilgm btw.

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If your using 5 gallon buckets , I would lean towards over-watering… 5 gallon buckets hold alot of moisture even if you have alot of drainage holes…
Every 3 days your watering… I don’t think your giving them enough time to dry out…
Most times when everything else seems to be in order and you’re doing everything else right and the environment seems to be pretty stable… that usually more or less is a over-watering issue… so I would really be inclined to make sure that that’s not the case with what you have going on… :wink:

:v: :sunglasses:

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Rock on thanks @peachfuzz

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I was actually thinking the same thing myself @peachfuzz

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adding just Cal mag rarely helps you need base nutrients key’d towards bloom with high Phosphorus and Potassium the symptoms you describe and appearance cry phosphorus

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I just wan to say; I never use CallMag in flower unless I develop a deficiency; Which I never do. So…?

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Doesn’t seem to be helping (bloom nutes). I am leaning towards a root issue of some sort. I’ll get some product for that and if it doesn’t bounce back I’m thinking of trashing it. It’s starting to smell like a gym locker.

@Fever I grow hydro, and I’m new to growing, but hydroguard saved me from root rot. Have a soil grower wieght in before you go out n waste Money on a bottle of supplements that won’t work for soil cuz tbh I just know it’s A1 for dwc n not a clue in hell how it would do for soil

The only thing that’s going to help you out at this point is to let it dry out enough so that the plant starts to show you signs of being really dry…
Once that happens I would poor a gallon of good ph’d water with a nice shot of hydrogen peroxide in it to kill off all the bad bacteria that has accumulated… then see how it goes… :wink:

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@Fever. ∆∆∆∆∆

I concur 100% @peachfuzz

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H2o2 didn’t clear up my rot… But hydro guard ate it away in a day or two. Like I said im in hydro so idk of hydroguard is even dirt compatible. I’d try what they said then if it doesn’t work see if you can use hydroguard with dirt n do the same thing but replace the h2o2 with hydroguard and see if those good microbes will eat up the bad ones around your roots

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Great idea too!

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I researched for you lol. It’s soil compatible. If you have the h2o2 around I’d try that first but imo 20$ for hydroguard is the best 20$ I’ve spent.

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Ok update.

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The “bad” plant went in the trash
The ugly plant broke a stem so I am drying that one now oops!
The good plant is having some leaf discoloration.
Ph in 7.1 ph out 6.8
Just saw this before watering with plain water today. Last watering was a feeding and runoff was 6.6

Light flipped on 4/7