Thanks for the info and the heads up on getting my buds drunk…lol
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Here is a great website to reference for bug identification covering North America and you can choose by the state your in except the state of confusion…didn’t see that one on their list.
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That’s a shame. 
I will try using whole milk to strip capsaicin then dilute it to spray the flower. Fat in milk dissolve capsaicin better than water too. So I think it will be safe on the flowering plants. I saw someone suggested spraying with diluted milk to kill the mites too. Adding capsaicin I. It will make them die more painfully.
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@Ning you are a sadist!
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@AAA, lol!
I got to! So many bugs after I was gone for over a month. Nearly lost all my heirloom tomatoes
After pounding up garlic+peppers, I poured whole milk (5%) into the mortar, Twirled and smooshed the pestle in it, directing the force to the bottom so I don’t get splashed on, for a few more minutes to help extracting as much capsaicin. Then add water to make up about two quarts. I used a fistful of hot Thai chili I grow and half a head of garlic.
The milk+pepper/garlic juice works really well.
Have to repeat it several more time though. There are a lot more under the leaves which I can’t get to easily. As you can see I got a mutant plant. She’s over 10’ tall now. I had to extend my bean fence up to match it. Staying on the ladder to tie the netting wasn’t fun. Next year I got to train it to be real short and manageable.
So many damned mites still on the plants! I might try to spray late at night when they are more active and expose themselves more
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Good luck, you need to patent Ningacide! Of course @skydiver should get royalties…
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Dam @Ning they did a number on the maters.
Too bad you don’t have an Auto mister to spray the bastards while your away. Freakin animal house party going on while the Dean was away.
Well last night I had a hard time finding any mites. A few on the saucers of the 1 gal and a few on the tie downs of one of the 6 5 gal pots. I sprayed all with NS Killer mix and will check them out later today after I deal with the Flower tent.
So I’ve used the Azamax twice the Spinosad twice the NS killer twice and a half…lol as well as Ning - Icide 3 times or so and 3% Hp 4 times or so and alcohol/ water once with using to spot treat.
2500 Lady bugs which in my observations was probably the least effective but I could be wrong as it’s tough to know how many they ate. Still haven’t noticed and lady bug eggs or larvae was hoping they were happy enough to reproduce.
All of these combined seems to have gotten the infestation close to being eradicated.
As far as I see the best kill spray (die now) was the Ning - Icide
The best kill slowly suffocating and leaves a residue seems to have been the NS Killer the only caveat is that NS was used after everything else so the Azamax and Spinosad both have cycle interrupting properties and those I’m sure helped severely reduce and slow down the population.
The NS Killer just seemed to leave the least amount of random activity after applying than any other method. Again they aren’t all dead yet I’m sure there’s still some breathing somewhere.
Will look again later tonight when watering them but they are definitely under control and I’ll have to be re tying down the big ones again as I need to get them under control growth wise.
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@AAA, lol! If it’s my patent, how come @Skydiver should get the royalties? He could be my marketing guy, lol!
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Thanks! What’s the NS killer again? Damn is right. I bit my teeth and went out to buy a couple of tomatoe seedling and planted, hopefully they will produce me some.
Just came in from defoliating the ladies all morning. The early flowered GF still got some toys on the early buds I had to trim off. I was to chicken to touch it not so sure I might kill it from pruning it wrong. Man! Next year, I’ll leave no colas to grow!
There’s still more I want to prune but will let them rest for a couple of days.
I grew a few kinds of beans and didn’t do much because I have mutant at hand. Just took a look to fix the climbing nets I made to reinforce it later and found out the damned mites setting up colonies on my winged beans too. I ran out of garlic already so just sprayed them with straight shots os 70% isopropyl alcohol.
Now I have a truck-load if trimmed leaves and baby buds and don’t know what to do with them!
Am running to the store and get a buttload of garlic and habaneros for major slaughter tomorrow.
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He named it, so he should get a cut.
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No problem I was in sales for 30 years
Link to earlier post showing NS Killer product
You can use the trim to juice or add to smoothies like say spinach or you could took in container and freeze and run later I guess. I’ve only saved trim from a harvest to use later for making canna oil/butter.
Here is a pretty cool link to a large grow in Az.
Has some good info on IPM they use there.
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Did you catch the t-shirt? “F&ck mites” 
Thank you for sharing. I’ll see you all tomorrow when I find my way back out of the rabbit hole lol
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No I missed that…too funny
I wanna go work there. Awesome facility.
@ “Myko Jordan.” That’d be a great handle for someone.
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@Skydiver, I got a hunch you’ve got experiences with marketing, lol! I’d never worked so hard in the garden for years. Between trimming, pruning moldy buds, spraying I. The warm Weather after being in SF for over a month, it took me a few days to recuperate, lol!
Thanks for the idea. I separated the young buds from the leaves and dried them. Saved some green for smoothie. One thing I’d like to try is making bread like zucchini bread with it and substitute shredded zucchini with chopped up leaves. I dried lots of the leaves and I read somewhere you can dry them and grind up to mix with flour to make canna flour for baking. There’s different ratios between ground dried leaves and flour from 4:1, 5:1. I guess I have to try it.
The milk as solvent for capsaicin works really well on flowering plants. I spray with it twice already and it works well. I’m spraying twice a week to make sure it keeps the caterpillars away from rotting my buds. I still haven’t gotten it under control with my beans and tomatoes yet.
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Here is a site I found that has various recipes and here is the one for making canna flour
Good to know on the milk pepper mix.
What was the amount of milk into a quart? Is that used in place of the water then?
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Thanks, I’ll have to really dry the leaves very well then. I saw different ratio, 2:1 like it says in the link and some canna cookbook says 4:1 which I might teybit first to see if it imparts ‘greeny’ Scent to the baked goods or not.
I think @garrigan62 mentioned somewhere about using plain diluted 1:1 milk to spray. However, I used it as solvent for capsaicin. So just to mix in after pounding. I used whole (5%) milk. I stirred with pestle and gently squished onto the pulps to extract more, about a few minutes. Then poured into big Pyrex measuring glass cup, add more water to it and strained into a pitcher. Rinsed the mortar with a little more milk to get the most capsaicin out. As I used milk as solvent for initial extraction, there’s no exact quantity to it, same go with the dilution. I just filled the half gallon pitcher with water so the solution is paler than non-fat milk.
I’m going to bake something with it today. Am sipping canna smoothie with young buds right now.
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So I’m currently spraying down 12 plants in 1 gal pots with neem oil 7.5ml and Bronners soap 15ml per quart and thinning them and topping with DE at the end to completely cover the top. I can water for now filling the saucers so I don’t mess up the DE from working.
What I have also been doing is looking at the activity after spraying and they are still walking around the bottom and sides of pots. So I take 91% isopropyl alcohol and spray directly on them as I see them. Watching those that I spray for a bit…they aren’t dying. WTF. So either the Isopropyl isn’t killing them like I’ve read or it isn’t an instant kill and they die after awhile? Anyone know if it is supposed to be a now kill using Isopropyl or does it take some time?
I’m also separating each of the 12 into their own saucers instead of 3 per large saucer to maybe better isolate the pots with more infestation etc.
I’m not seeing them on the plants nor in the soil just on the outside of the pots. They are all starting to get root bound and small deficiencies are popping up.
I also saw these little worms on the sides of one of the pots where 2 pots where touching in the larger saucers.
Any one seen these before?
Anyway still fighting the mite fight.
Next watering will be tray floods using Azamax or battery acid or fire pit or something lol
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I use Isopropyl 70% to kill aphids. It also killed most of the spider mites in my winged beans. It doesn’t seem to kill bugs with hard shell that’s like they wear armor. Did you spray it on veg state plants? Have you tried my juice extracted with milk yet? Yesterday I read somewhere that milk fuel bacterial growth that kills mildew and caterpillars. So I’m spraying the budding flowers with the milk-dissolved capsaicin+garlic especially the cola.
Hopefully I can harvest them soon. Getting tired of battling these damned bugs!