The guardian, can you just leave the probe in a bucket of feed water?
Haha I wishhhhh I could justify the spend, it’s tempting 
If I get a 5 lb harvest and make 10k+ I just might end up with half of that in equipment 
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Yeah, that or their pH/ppm controller is a great investment because you can connect it to a large nutrient reservoir (read: autopot reservoir). It’s the next thing on my “I wish I had this” list, right below a Sourceturbo or the equipment to do a BHO extraction.
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That does sound awesome, and it just lets in pH up or down when needed right?
It’s going on mine too, someday I’d love to set up a station right outside the flower room with a trash can for my feedwater, raise it up on a stand and have a spigot on it to fill my buckets.
I looked at those extract machines too, just couldn’t justify the price when I have nowhere near the tolerance for concentrates haha, and I can’t sell them without a manufacturing license.
Haha I remember the days of making homemade BHO extractors out of a certain type of PVC. Don’t recall what kind but the wrong kind can’t take the extreme cold and it can shatter/kinda explode. I was “careful”, had a buddy that didn’t think the kind of PVC mattered. he’s got scars in his hand now.
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Yup. The controllers are sweet. Probably the only way to manage a large scale grow without needing a bunch of employees
For what it’s worth I chatted up a bunch of folks at the canna con today, and it sounded like there are a bunch of labs for testing. I head Rio Grande come up a couple times and Scepter Labs. Makes me think those are gonna be the ones worth investigating more seriously when you’re ready to send samples off. Weird dichotomy of people - lots who were excited by a small grow and equally as many who just full on stopped talking to me, as if a microproducer would have nothing to offer so they’d rather not spend the time. Real odd.
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Definitely sounds time saving,. If I expanded my room double what it is now I’d def need to plot out some things like that to make it at least closer to automated. Not sure how many plants I could get up to while still hand watering lol
Yup I think those are the main two, rio grand in ALB and scepter up in Santa Fe. Both have mentioned wanting a satellite lab down here, but neither can afford it and the state never responded to one of their requests for state help.
Which is kinda sad since they’ve got all this increased revenue, you’d think they’d be willing to contribute some of it to uphold their own legislation requiring them to support all sorts of fairness in the new industry… like by their own legislature they can’t allow half the state to be disabled in the market 
That is odd, especially since it seems like they’re paying by the pound no matter how big a grow is, you’d think they’d rather have 5 lb batches that were given more detailed care growing and curing etc.
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Lollipop and a heavy defoliation will greatly decrease larf and allowing them to put more energy twards upper flowers.
But it is all of the factors combined.
Light and all the other things have some effect, but @Graysin is absolutely correct that “they focus more on the top bits” they can tell what bits are the “tallest” or at the top. And they tend to put more energy into whatever is the highest.
This is why simply bending or leaning a plant over can have a huge impact on yeild.
The more light a bud site gets tje more it will grow. But the bigger factor is how close to the top of the canopy is the sites from my experience anyways.
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Oh I forgot to mention if ya want to upgrade ya dont have to add plants.
Just invest in autopots and it be like adding a few plants with yeilds and you only deal with watering once a week or so.
Its set it and forget it!
They really are the ultimate grower hack 
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That makes a lot of sense, them knowing the height of their branches and reacting accordingly. This last group I bent one over, the smallest and youngest of the group, and it gave the most top colas and also the most weight. And phenome-wise turned out the best haha
But yeah lots of factors… I’m truly glad I didn’t tie down the GSCs in early flower now, they have so many damn long thin branches reaching for the top that 3 out of 4 have trouble supporting their own weight already, they’d be on the ground if I had lst’d them haha
Autopots are Definitely on my list of things to try! 
It just confuses me though with the lack of runoff, wouldn’t they hella encourage salt buildup and lockout???
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Lastnight I had to bungee cord up one of them because half her branches were leaning over on a shorter girl in front of her >_<
I think half due to me letting these veg too long cuz the flower room wasn’t empty yet, and half their genes since the other strain in the group has absolutely no issue holding their own weight.
I can’t even imagine the mess if I had LST’d these haha
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Woot! Wedding Cake clones starting to reveg with the typical weird one-blade leaves haha
But speaking of the wedding cake,
@Graysin I might have let that harvest dry too much, it’s odd cuz it didn’t feel too dry, but put it in a grove bag with one of the little hydrometers and it’s staying at like 52% humidity:/ is there any way I can safely re-moist it?
Also, your White Wedding is taking off nicely!
But I can’t figure out why the heck the edges of a couple leaves are turning up as if from heat stress, it’s freaken 74° in there and it’s not even directly under the light it’s in the baby/clone area,. Has a slight breeze etc,… so I’m lost haha
If you have any fresh trimmed leaves, you can throw them in the bag. May have to play with the amount that it takes to raise the humidity.
Congrats on the clones.
Bugs, light, wind, heat, and pH can play a part in leaves curling. If you’ve had this issue before, then backtrack to when you noticed it starting and what you did differently…. 
Keep’em growin! 
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OOO! That’s an awesome idea!
Ill trim some more tonight, one of the GSC brats needs it anyway haha
The first grow a couple plants did something similar,(they tacoed, so not just edges) but it was in the flower room with less ventilation and was June and struggling to keep temps below 85, And with trash genetics haha.
These are in a different environment, a tent in my garage that’s more mild and regular with temps etc.
I’m thinking rule out heat since it hasn’t passed 74,
Bugs I look for constantly, nothing living in the tent but the plants.
pH idk,. I’ve been feeding the babies their own batch slightly less strong and ph’d to 5.9,.
Wind the fan just Bareeeely catches this one enough to shake the leaves lightly…
Leaves me thinking light has to be the only possibility?, But would be weird cuz the baby spot is off in a corner getting pretty indirect light, probably 200ppfd or less
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Throw an apple peel, orange peel, etc etc into the grove bag with it. Orange or lemon would be good since it’s naturally anti microbial.
No idea why. Fans nearby?
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I wanted to think fans cuz it would be an easy fix, but watched for a while and it barely gets a gentle breeze, definitely not too much.
Oooh that’s a good idea too. Might even make it smell more citrusy haha
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I use plant yo-yos and trellis netting sometimes to hold branches up.
Both are really cheap to buy but cones in handy…
Thats the little yellow things, they have fishing string that goes to the top of the tent and spring loaded…
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Those are actually the two options I looked at lastnight, ended up ordering 24 yoyos and they’ve got yellow hooks, might be those same one haha
And trellis is a thought for the next group, if I put it in right I wouldn’t have to worry about supporting branches etc, just haven’t figured out the logistics of how I’d still have good access to each plant if I covered a 5x10 area with it. Possibly raising them all on a table or something so that the trellis can be up high out of my way… hmm.
Wow! Gorgeous shape on the one on the right especially, damn! I’m gonna assume indica dominant,. God I love those thick stocky branches 
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Yayyy got something right for once!
Seems like they didn’t like the 5.6-5.7 range.
Started feeding lastnight at 5.9-6.0,
Tonight all is happy again
@Graysin Since she’s been getting their same water, maybe Graychild will appreciate the change too and lay that damn leaf flat
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Look at @AfgVet ’s net setup. It’s very clever.
Maybe. Or maybe she’s going to be a problem child. 
I won’t be hurt if you have to axe her for being a PITA.
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And you could say the same about @merlin44 's setup… 
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Thanks for the shout out @kaptain3d, you are too kind.
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