Not sure why I cant figure this out

Trimmed too much or over watered? There wasnt any run-off between the three of them.

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I think you are under watering, soil seems extremely dry. Moreover take off the trimmed leaves from the soil, will bring you pests. Please wait for experts opinions.

You should be watering to 20% runoff at every watering. Capture and measure PH and TDS of runoff to monitor media for issues.

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They look thirsty…
Overwatering is a huge problem and under watering is also a huge problem…
When you start to under water your soil will become hydrophobic and start to repel water and not hold moisture which leads to major under watering conditions…:+1::wink:
It’s a real learning curve…
Take a pot of the same size with dry soil and see how lite it is and then take a same pot with same soil and water the crap out of it…
Pick them both up and see how the weight difference is…
Watering soil is tricky and definitely takes time to get the hang of…
Try to aim for something that’s 2/3’rds as light as the one that you watered the crap out of…
You will get it tho… :+1::wink:

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Yea I think they might die…watered with cal mag phd to 6.8 run off came out 7.3-7.4

Who knew this would be THIS COMPLICATED :man_shrugging:t5:

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They look thirsty my friend…
Water really good and let them be for 2 days and see what happens… :+1::wink:

I’m just a hobby grower, but I’d like some of the seasoned growers to chime in on the PH numbers. I think that’s your problem, at least part of it anyway.

@croberts1290 … How to test the pH of your soil mix

Measuring the pH of soil / soilless runoff
The pH of soil is just as important as with hydro applications, but few people know how to test soil pH to see if it is within the optimum range for growing robust healthy plants. Here I will try to explain my method of testing any soil / soilless mix, enabling me to spot any problems and correct them if necessary.

Firstly, wait till your soil has dried out and is due for its next watering schedule. Then take some plain water that you usually water your garden with, and adjust the pH to 7.0. You must make sure that you know the exact pH of the water going into your soil, and the neutral 7.0 is best, but anywhere from 6.5 – 7.0 will suffice.

Then place your pot into a bowl of some sort to catch the runoff water, and then start to water your soil slowly (with your pH- corrected plain water) till the water starts to drip from the bottom. It’s the first drops of water that will give you the best reading of your soil, so make sure to water slowly till you see the first droplets. Then remove the pot from the bowl to eliminate excess water entering the bowl. Then perform the pH test on the runoff and compare it too your initial test.

The results of the runoff test will likely be lower than your starting value of 7.0. If this is the case, a small drop of 0.5 pH to 6.5 pH (example) would be ok and your soil needs no further alterations at the moment. But that’s not to say that it won’t need any future tests at all, just not at this time.
[Editor’s note: It may be beneficial to obtain an initial sample, as well as a ‘full flush’ sample in separate bowls. In addition, test several plants in the garden just to verify your results]

What if the pH is off?
If your results prove to have dropped considerably, say to around 5.5 (which can happen in late stages of flowering), you will need to add some lime into your soil to help buffer the pH back up again.

Remove the first inch or so of soil, taking care not to damage any roots whilst performing this task, ensuring that your pH is correct should be done throughout the life cycle; this will help eliminate any nutrient lockout that may occur. I recommend doing this once a month just to keep the PH in check, and you should never have a problem with deficiencies caused by pH lockout. Then sprinkle the lime into the pot, nice and evenly at a rate of 1 teaspoon (5 ml) of lime per gallon of soil. Then replace the soil you removed earlier, and saturate the soil good to wash in the lime.

Do the same test next time your plants need watering just to check that everything is fine, if more lime needs to be added then just repeat the process again till you reach close to 6.5 – 7.0 with the runoff.

Hope this helps

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Filling out a support ticket will give us all a better understanding of your grow, what’s happening, and how you may improve it.

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@Drinkslinger @peachfuzz @RockClarke @
Strain- Hawaiian Snow; Type - Sativa
Super Soil in 10 Gallon fabric pots,
System type? LED?
PH of runoff or solution in reservoir? 6.7-6.8 run off 7.4-7.5
What is strength of nutrient mix? 5ml/gal of water
Light system, size? SF4000
Temps; Day 77-86 Night 77
Humidity-Day 60-75% Night N/A
Ventilation system- Yes, Cloudline T4
Humidifier- yes
Co2 - No

Spent the last couple hours watering with cal-mag water trying to get some run off but its taking forever.

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That’s really high. For soil you’re looking for a runoff of pH 6.5

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Mixing in lime to the soil would lower it?

Hi. I am new to growing also. But I have made a few observations that might help. some times little things add up. First of all I noticed that fan is right on the plants. That can cause wind burn and make the leaves shrivel up. I like mine to get an indirect breeze so the leaves kinda dance but not get blasted.

I also noticed your pots are not elevated. Meaning they actual pot in the saucer is not off the ground.I could be wrong. They should not be sitting in run off and should be elevated so that the runoff isn’t wicking back up into the pot. i use these pot elevators. Do NOT buy them from amazon. your local grow shop should have them for a few dollars a piece.

Also you have a lot of debris in your pot. Dead leaves and what not. This will attack pests like fungus gnats and will also be place for molds and mildew to form. i would suggest cleaning your pot up.

next I noticed your temps and a gain I could be wrong but 86F seems awful high to me. I like to keep myplants between 72-78. But like I said I am new and learning.

Your Rh at night seems high to me. I try to bring mine down to the low 60s at upper 50s at night. There are several VPD Vapor Pressure Deficit charts you can refer to depending on where the plant is in growth. That being said many grow with much lower Rh than these charts promote and have incredible yields. About RH. High RH numbers can help promote things like molds and powdery mildew. You plant is obviously suffering from other issues and while it is not doing well is when these molds and mildews will be able to attack as your plant is not at its strongest.

One more thing I noticed is the soil levels in some of the pots. It looks as if when they were transplanted maybe not enough soil was added. I see the new soil in some pots is below the top soil from the old pots. This could be leaving roots exposed.

For the rest of it the pros here got you covered. I wish you luck. and will be watching and hoping they pull through.


Cant find any risers that are 16"

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it’s a popular size for 7 gallon pots i think. I couldnt find any 13" that fit my 5 gallon locally. call all your local hydro shops. they shouldnt cost you more than 3-4 bucks. just dont spend $20 a piece on them.

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Found some for you:

I tried them and their shipping is more than the quantity im trying to buy :man_facepalming:t4:

My rh drops to around 55% @ night. Might start utilizing the cheap dehumidifier i bought.

Watered with 2 gallons of worm tea across the 3 of them. Will upload pictures tomorrow.

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Hope that revives them - you should be ok - but they looked really dry - to the point that the soil had shrunk in the bags. Might be worth ensuring you got good penetration with that water - and it doesn’t just run off the soil ‘block’.
Best of luck! :v: