I’m delighted to see that the GL filled up the scrog for you mate the lady I am using is called ICE it is an indica which grows very bushy so I have read 
i am excited to see how your GL does and she is in a 4×4 I just hope that I have not bit of to much trying to fill a big tent first maybe a 2×2 would off been a little better but I am committed now and on il go but I hope you won’t mind some questions when it comes to the right LST and other trainings @Bogleg 
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Just keep posting pics with your questions and when you have a question. You might want to search for the support ticket on the forum and edit the first post in this journal with that information so when you do have questions, people can go back and look at the first post to see the details of your grow.
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Im sorry folk’s @Bogleg has just made an important point to me I did not at the start of the Journal give my intentions on how I am going to, proceed with my grow. So just to update some I’m doing an Organic grow in Biobizz Soil and a brand off nutrients call BioNova Organics, after I germination off my 1 ICE seed which is a Hybrid off WW×NL×S-No1. I transplanted it into 1/2 gallon pot and I have since I have transplanted into a 1 gallon pot, and I am currently using a Mars-Hydro UFO 300 watt and intend to change it up to a COB for the flowering period my PH going in is at 6.3 no runoff test just yet that will be tomorrow and feeding PPMs are at 700-800 I will also get an accurate Reading off both of them from my runoff I do apologise for not put this in sooner for everyone .
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So here is the second part off today’s updated version of my current grow folk’s, by the way I definitely putting the blame on my Volcano 
I was given as a present from my Sis to help with my Cluster Headaches and it definitely has if I can get to it quick enough @Niala and others I’m thinking about you all. So back to fixing thing’s up some more when I did begin I first soke my Biobizz Organic Soil light mix, (why the Light-Mix and not All-Mix ) yes it is a none fertilised potting mix with some perlite to help with drainage that’s it its all hands on deck as much a I can with this lady.
Now the nutrients I’m using is the Bio-Nova brand and has a lot off bottles I just call them stand alone products the Root, Grow, Bloom are all there alone
with alot off more like stimulators folier feeding and stand alone N or P or k in case of deficiencies you can hit it fast because it is all liquid nutrients.
Now Training, that I have don’t so far, first I topped the main middle stem at the 4th node (any opinions on the folk’s please) and I always now give my lady’s 10-14 days recovery if I see signs of stress but il move in 5-10 if she looks well and strong enough, so my next step was after say 14 days (I’m guessing a little there with day’s sorry) I also fimmed the new 2 top’s (OPINIONS PLEASE) and again let her recover and just 2 days ago I topped the 2 big side branch’s which seems to be taken well as far a I can see when it comes to her showing any type of stress and last I am doing some middle to heavy LST on her she hasn’t missed a beat actually but is it going to be enough my friends any and all support advice I would be very grateful for thank you in advance 
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Hello everyone hope you all have a great day, I will be updating my journal soon now with an as full and detailed update I’m just waiting till is closer to the light’s out time, I like to keep my feedings or plain Ph’d water in there just 20-30 minutes before lights out and I do the same when it’s just Ph’d water anyway chat to you soon. @Dieselgrower mate you have been quite if you aren’t to busy maybe you could give me some pointers on LST and topping or fimming or Super Cropping anything will help I was just reading over your thread. I’m worried I won’t be able to fill my 4×4 I also have a 2×2 awh we’ll see I am really putting the effort in for sure
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Good morning. I will tell you a secret.
I only top my plants once.
To fill the screen, imho, is all about time in veg. For a SCROG I want long branches I can super crop.
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Thank you @Bogleg I really appreciate that as @Momtomask the SCROG King so, I have already went over some because I have topped 4 times on 4 different stems the main were topped on 4 side’s also, so I done 2 straight across from each other let them recover for 6 days and no ill affects, and I then fimmed those 2 topped stems again I made sure that she was showing no signs of stress and 10 day’s after that I topped both the other 2 stems at the same time that was 4 day’s now and she is still thriving not messing a beat so far but finger’s crossed folk’s, and last but not least I am as doing some LST plenty of tucking leaves and tieing down again thank you for your help mate I no you are hydro grower and I am growing in Organic soil but the SCROG screen is what needs to be sorted out and I am willing to let her keep Vegging for as long as she takes just look at your GL she was a monster before you moved her and she did and still looks beautiful 
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Yeah sorry just have some stuff going on. I usually will top at least twice sometimes 3 times if the plant is growing pretty vigorous. It just depends on how the plant is feeling.
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Thanks mate I have done quite a bit in about 3 and 1/2 weeks in veg and but she is doing good thank for the support.
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My friends I have some queries to run by you. I am using a MarsHydro UFO 300 watt LED, a 400 watt HID, and a 27 watt LED hanging bulb full spectrum reasons being that I have been doing so much training, tucking big Indica leafs and tying down stems down she is really responding great tho everything that has been done and still happening. OK so the first is the leaves on my lady the stems on them are turning red but only at the top where the LEDs are hitting her.
I have taken some pic’s for you all to give me as many opinions as possible please folk’s so here is the top off the plant up close
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Now as you see folk’s the red colour I am talking about is on both the top and bottom of the leafs.
This is about 2/3’s off the way down the plant just mint green so I’m wondering can I rule out a Cal-Mag deficiency
@dbrn32 @garrigan62 @Momtomask
I don’t see any sign of calcium deficiency. But I’m pretty sure phosphorus and magnesium deficiencies can both show reddish or purple stems. But sometimes stems can just be genetically that color too.
I think I would start by grabbing some runoff ph and ppm data if you haven’t already. Only because your leaves look a little dark and droopy too. Hopefully runoff ph is somewhere between 6-7. After that, what’s ppm out vs ppm in? I’m not sure about magnesium, but phosphorus can be locked out by high levels of other nutrients. So if ppm out is high, that’s a good possibility. If ppm out is low, I would consider bumping the bloom nutes on the next feeding and maybe adding a tsp of Epsom salts to bump phosphorus and magnesium levels a little.
If your ph and ppm data look good, and you’re following a nutrient schedule, I’m not sure I would do too much at this point.
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Thank mate yeah im in line with a 6.8 Ph a little high I know but I will now be able to get a through runoff reading and PPMs out runoff reading. My PPMs going in is between 750-850 now that’s just in mate. I have only transplanted her from a 1 gallon straight to a 4 and 1/2 gallon fabric smart pot because of the size of the root ball I skipped the 2 gallon and 3 gallon I was thinking it would be to much stress with all the training,. One more this mate do you think the the LEDs would change it a little maybe but I don’t know about the under part been red also will get there tho nice one lad thank you .
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I don’t think the lights will cause them to change color. It’s usually more stress related.
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Awh she had just been transplanted for the 3rd time and extensive training also thank you @dbrn32 .
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I think it’s time for an update folk’s and some pic’s off what is going one with this lady. So it one female plant called, ICE, she is now 4 week’s old and 2 weeks as a seedling so that’s 6 weeks from sprouting.
TRAINING : OK first Topping, this girl has been topped 4 time’s on different stems the 4 main stems and, I should say that the stems that I did top were on there 4th node’s before I did any topping .
FIMMING: I have fimmed her twice now on the first 2 stems that I topped it all went great thankfully and the plant is doing great.
LST & TUCKING: I have also been doing alot off tying down and leaf tucking she has big Indica leafs.
FEEDINGS & WATERING: She is now on a feed, feed, water, and I flush to about 20% runoff for testing each time and it’s all Organic .
PH&PPMS: My PH is at 6.5 going in and 6.45 coming out and I’m vert happy with that. So now to the PPMs going in 800 I will have to wait one more day so I can give you all an accurate Reading of the PPMs runoff and how much she is getting into herself .
TRANSPLANTING: As I have said she has been transplanted 3 times now started off in a little seedling (I DON’T REALLY COUNT THIS AS A TRANSPLANT) so next se when into a 1/2 gallon and then into a 1 gallon and she is now in a 3 gallon. So some pic’s then folk’s,
And this her on of her been tortured lol . This is a pic’s off here root ball and why I skipped the 2 gallon pot during transplanting, . And last a pic off my lady in here new home straight after her goi g into her new home.
sorry about the length of this update but I’m really trying to keep everyone right up to date with everything this time around, thank for any advice, opinions or straight up tip if anyone see anything worng or right please my friends just chat away and BRING the info lol
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@garrigan62 how are you my friend I have just posted an updated maybe if you have time you could have a look at the last 10 or so posts and give me your opinions please I would appreciate it mate .
@dbrn32 I have posted in the worng thread I ask latewood if he could move it for me is that the right person to ask or am I just bothering the worng person…
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I seen that lol. Not really a big deal, but you can go back to the post and delete it yourself right?
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Off course you the man mate thank you
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