Ist grow, into flower and getting nervous

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Strain; Type, Bag seed, or NA… Carmel candy kush, LSD

Soil in pots, Hydroponic, or Coco? SOIL

System type? air pots

PH of runoff or solution in reservoir? Ph of water in 5.8-6.3

What is strength of nutrient mix? EC, or TDS na
Indoor or Outdoor indoor

Light system, size? 1000 watt air cooled

Temps; Day, Night day 75 night 65-70

Humidity; Day, Night. 60 -75

Ventilation system; Yes, No, Size yes,

AC, Humidifier, De-humidifier, dehumidifier

Co2; Yes, No no

So we are 5 weeks I to flower went to water tonight and noticed some pretty bad yellowing on the fan leaves, started low and going upwards. Been using technaflora recipe for success, with a water, water, feed schedule. Added in golden tree 1x per week and mammoth 1x per week. Have been pretty happy so far, but now getting nervous. Here some pics…

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The pH is 5.8 - 6.3. Is that the runoff or what you are putting in? In either case, it is too low for soil unless ‘technaflora recipe for success’ requires lower pH.

How much Golden Tree are you putting in and how many weeks has it gone in ?

Are your seeds Auto or photo-period?

Do you allow drainage out the bottom when you water/feed? These questions are what I have to help you.
Jerry

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I agree with txgrowman, the pH seems sort of low for soil. I believe it’s 6.3-6.8, 6.5 being the sweet spot. If that’s the in, then what’s the runoff pH? Or is that the runoff? If so what’s the oh going in? But I am no expert just giving my opinion and maybe a nitrogen deficiency but not to sure honestly.

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txgrowman and manny, The ph 5.8 to 6.3 is the water going in. I do not test the run off, but from what’s been said I prolly should. Receipt for success from technaflora indicates 5.8 to 6.2, but not sure if that’s in or runoff. I usually do not water to run off for fear of overwatering and also I have fungus knats trying to control. As far as golden tree, I have been using 5ml to 1 gall9n of water at a 1x per week schedule and have only fed with golden tree 2xs total. I do not know if seeds are auto or photo period (don’t know what that means). The plants are From clones. From what the pics show, do they look ruined??

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Yeah that’s your problem. The nutes you are using are hydro nutes or tailored for hydro.

So for right now I think that when it is time to water next you need to water 6.5 pH until you get runoff. In the meantime go to the manufacturer website and see if they have a different feeding chart for soil…

Unless the soil you are using is actually a soilless mix?

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@bob31 So the recipe for success indicates a schedule for soil/soilless or hydroponic mediums. I’m using fox farm SOIL so I have been going with the Soil schedule. I’ve attached a picture of the schedule. I currently use only 2/3rds of the nutrients called for cuz I though full was too strong.

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Ok cool. I’m not sure why they are telling you that pH but it needs to be 6.5 for Fox farms unless you’re using light warrior?

Here is the pH chart the lines indicate where the different nutrients are absorbed. If your going in below 6.5 you are preventing the absorbtion of phosphorus, calcium and magnesium

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Also as i mentioned i dont water to run off… but should i? I dont want to get of topic here but ive been told i have fungas knats do to overwatering. If i have run off each time i water, im over watering… right?

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I’ve heard that too. I had them too and I never over-watered. They are in the organic soil. Most likely in the bat guano. If you don’t water to runoff you are actually under watering.

If your pots are well drained the only way to over-watered is to not allow the soil to dry out in between watering.

Which ff soil are you using?

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I just looked at the pic you posted and they are clearly telling you to pH to 5.8 for soil and soilless. That really seems to go against the ff soil which I know the ocean forest is phd to like 6.8

If they offer an email address or an 800 number I would contact them and show them your pics and ask them about the pH.

All of the research I have done has been pretty consistent 6.5 for soil and 5.8 for hydro and soiless

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@bob31 sorry i didnt respond last night, im a newbie and when tryed to respond told me i had reached my daily limit for replies. How nice!!hopefully that wont happen again. TI appreciate the input greatly!! Do u think the plants can be saved or do u think they are ruined. Again this is my 1st grow… I don’t want to blow it. I have a lot of time into this( which I love) and a lot of money into it as well. I’ve added some additional photos with better lighting so u can see what I’m trying to resolve. Thanks again to all who have input… I need it!!

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I ran into this at the same point just a week or so ago. (See 5 weeks into flower) Here’s my advice: flush your plants at the next watering to a ph of 6.3 with the runoff using 7.0 water. At the following watering be sure to fertilize with a nutrient that contains a high amount of nitrogen. Be careful of bud rot.

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@Myfriendis410 i actually flushed today, 10 gallon pots, using 3 gallons of ph water at 6.5. I plan on letting dry out a day or so and use cal mag for next water after flush, then go to fox farm tiger bloom at 1.5 teaspoons per gallon. Any thoughts

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It was recommended to go with a good dose of nitrogen.

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Let them dry for a few days you will be surprised how they like this as they should blow your buds up .I always water at a PH of 6.4 using soil and coco.I use basic nutes such as Thrive and seaweed extract for both veg and flower for soil growing and have got great results I also use Epson salts for magnesium when needed .Hydro nutes I have just used slightly with my latest grow but stopped using after 2 weeks just in case it is not suited for soil grows.I also back off the nitrogen decreasing with each feeding and flush every 3 weeks the last 10 days before harvest I flush those ladies good and proper .

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@mantas, thanks for the input. After the flush I figure I’ll let dry for few days and add some cal mag. I’ve never used cal mag before so not sure how much I should be using. After the cal mag, ill do a good dosing of FF tigerbloom for 1st feeding after flush. It was suggested to go with good dose of nitogen after flush and i assume a heavy feed of FF tigerbloom should accomplish this. Being my 1st grow, based on the pics above how do they look? I’m trying to get some feedback from people who have experience if they look ok.

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You are in better shape than I was. I would simply make sure that whatever nutrients you use do contain a bolus of nitrogen for this first feeding so you get back on track.

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Yhea looks great just unsure of the nitrogen dose depending on how many parts per mil you are doing my flowers are in there 7 week stage and I just cut back to near 300 parts per mil with nitrogen and there doing fine but I could be wrong different strains and growing its all a learning game:wink:

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@mantas @bob31 @Myfriendis410 so I completed the flush on Sunday, last night they were still pretty wet and I anticipate they will be drier tonight and ready to give a feed. I’m switching over to fox farm tiger bloom and know I need a heavy dose of nitrogen for my 1st feeding since flush. I’m also using the fox farm ocean Forrest, which I failed to mention earlier. My question is how much of the tiger bloom should I use? I’ve also been told to add some cal mag also. Should I add that at the same time and how much would be sufficient? I dont want to over do it!! Thanks again for all you help so far. Really want to get these back on track!!

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So getting nervous here, really yellowing fan leaves, and some of the fan leaves have purple in them. Thoughts?? Advice?? Anything at all???

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