How to recover from Airy Buds?

I didn’t mean it like that :wink:. It’s no trouble just meant I have to take the picture can’t just pull up the file lol

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I have the exact same issue with autoflowering plants, everyone that I’ve grown Outdoors, indoors under cheap lights, or indoors under really good lights have all been Airy and fluffy . Grown next to two photo plants, my four Autos yielded less than the two photos grown for the same amount of time.
I have also discovered that after running through a grinder, rolling them up in a joint, and smoking them , I cannot tell the difference between Airy Buds and solid buds . I know everybody wants to pull a pound per plant, But sometimes environment, genetics, and just overall Treatment of the plants Makes a big difference on how much yield and how dense the buds are .

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Lol I figured you didnt mean it in anyway. Everyone i seen on here seems to be friendly and enjoying showing their product haha

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Yeah at least with my airy buds not one got mold lol. I guess thats the one upside to it. Im curious how much more dense your photos were. Were they airy at all? Interesting it seems autos are more likely to be airy

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I’ll let you guess which is which…and I swear I looked for the biggest nugs in the AF. There just aren’t any it’s all fluff BS that fell apart when trying to trim it.

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Nice pics. I can definitely tell the difference. I feel ill have the same experience you have and experience dense photos but airy autos. What two strains are these?

Photos are white widow and blue dream. The white widow is bomb as fk :wink:. The Blue dreams a nice smoke too but not in same class. Autos are blackberry and lsd 25

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It was a huge difference between the Autoflower and the photo flowering plants . My guess is at least four times the weight per volume . If I threw the nugs from an Autoflower in a quart mason jar I would be lucky to fill it with an ounce But the photo plants were easily 2 ounces in a mason jar without a problem .

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I’m outta likes gotta do this like a savage. But yeah what @fast-grow said. Way different

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Wow definitely seems to be more genetics of auto flowers. I will definitely give this post an update once my CW photos are done.

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Yeah and your pics gave me peace of mind. Seems like autos are more likely to be less dense. At the stage my photos are at they seem much more dense then at the stage the autos were at. Hard to tell but i feel im going to see more dense results. Ill update when it comes time to cut my first photo in probably 5 weeks

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Glad to have been able to give you some peace of mind. I’ll be looking forward to hearing about your results!

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Something i just thought of that totally makes sense for autos… ive noticed that in ilgm.com product page for every strain… you know where you see the product details of estimated/average yield per sq ft? Well i noticed autos show significantly less then photos… so im guessing maybe they are accounting the estimate that the autos will be airy… if thats the case… it totally makes sense because im doing the math and it all adds up to my yeild lol

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Uh, no. Autoflowering plants in general are smaller with lower yields due to their shorter life cycle than photoperiod plants. Genetics will also play a role: sativa-leaning plants produce looser flower as the plants have adapted to a more tropical environment and this helps prevent botrytis (bud rot) so is an evolutionary adaptation to conditions.*

This is taken from your light specs:

The LED Growing Light consumes only 400W of power, which is 50% less than the operating power of other 800W HID/Blurple/HPS lamps, while help gets 50%

You have a lamp using older diodes so unsure of luminous efficacy. Going by the amount of power pulled from the wall you have between half and 2/3 of the amount of minimum light necessary to fully flower out your plants. This is way more than likely the proximate cause of loose flower.

*I have seen many many autoflowering plants produce dense nugs and high yields but you have to be on your game. @Not2SureYet does 10 to 14 zips per plant regularly with autos: dank and potent as well.

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Ok thanks for this comment. If for now getting a new light isnt an option, would you say making sure the lamp is at least 12 inches or less away from the plants?

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If you don’t run the risk of burning the tops, sure. I regularly have my gucci lights within 5" or so.

Using inverse square law (roughly): halving the distance between light and target will quadruple the amount of light (sorta).

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Send me some of those nuggets, I’ll give you a report on how they smoke. :crazy_face:

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Just confused because i see others with the same light i have produce dense buds and my strain is indica dominant. Idk what else to do at this point . For autos. I feel these grew pretty tall one is over 4 feet but lose airy buds as well so I probably wont yeild much in weight.

Hey @RandyMarsh , I can’t find it where you and I were talking and I had told you about putting your plants on a bucket to bring it up to the light I wanted the pictures to show you what I’m trying to say That was because anything further than probably 16 or 18 inches from your light is not going to get enough light. You had alot of buds to far from your Light for them to be good solid buds. It’s going to be up to you to learn techniques to level the top of your canopy and keep the bottoms of your plants trimmed up for you to produce better buds. It’s even harder with autos to train them level because of their going to flower before you can get them trained and why imo shouldn’t be flowered in the same tent as photos unless you are a more skilled grower.

If you want to get a really good harvest you should start all your plants at the same time and do either or photos autos not both. This way all your plants have a better chance of being the same size and trained the same way to take advantage of the light. Google sea of green or screen of green and read up on those techniques they’re really good producers of top quality buds

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Yeah man that has to be it. I think youre right. Around that time when i got the buckets it was probably to late as far as making dense buds. Unfortunately my autos are all almost done so it’s probably too late but my chronic widow photos that are tall should be dense. Theyre starting to get red hairs and they look way fuller.

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