[quote=“spankyjr1, post:79, topic:74048”]
wait until you think they are ready to go into flowering [/quote]
I will just pull them out and do a floral arrangement on them letting those big leave collect light for a little while longer.
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Update: 21 SEP (Day 24 Above Ground)
Took out the Plants and looked things over. Why? Because Farmers never take a day off. Words borrowed / plagiarized from @Hellraiser, LOL.
Leaves are still nice, dark, and green for the most part. Next Fluid event is a feeding. I am going to ½ dose the Aggressive Vegetation line on the bottle and look at the PPM in and out. Talked myself out of Full label strength this next time. Next Feed after. FULL Label.
The “recycled dirt” is drying a bit faster, but still trying to keep the plants on the same fluid schedule. The used dirt of course had the consistency of perlite, dry, stripped of nutrients. (Why did I use Recycled dirt om bag 3?) Rookie mistake……I did not calculate the volume of the bags and came up short with new dirt on hand.
I am using the Bag Lift method, along with a cheap moisture meter I bought sometime ago. I saw @hellraiser even use one for demo purposes, on his tutorial, Hellraiser Grows Gorilla Glue, so I don’t feel like such a pxssy now. Trying to make sure the bag is really dry in-between adding Fluids trying to get my root ball more developed than in previous grows. I may have been watering a day too early in the past grows. Trying to get the Roots to stretch out, seeking water, and fill the bag better than in the previous grows. I always like to autopsy the root ball at the end of the Grow, and the past they all showed lack of watering, under developed.
I am not going to try and kid myself…I am still in Rookie Grow Status, but love being Weed Independent.
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It looks like they getting close to flower.
They are happy with what you are doing. If still feeding at 50%, given their color, that must be about right for now.
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Glad to see Brother @Beardless drop in and offer up some Tips.
Update: 22 SEP (Day 25 Above Ground)
For my audience of 1 sometimes 2 here are my numbers…
Last Event Watering: Day 5 since then.
Medium: Happy Frog Dirt
Start off Solution Water: 123 PPM
Today’s Event: Feed (Feed/Water/Feed cycle)
Feed PH: 6.4
Fluid: 50% Label Trio Nutes following “Aggressive Vegetation” Line on Bottle.
Each plant took 105 FL OZ approx. to achieve run off. Here are my numbers.
Feed Solution Start PPM: 740 PPM
Run Off PPM Recycled (Old) Dirt: 1230 PPM
Run off PPM(New) Dirt x2: 4190 PPM
PH Run off: 5.3, only measured new dirt (1). I read that you want the PH of the Run off within 1 point of input.
Lamp Height: 25” above Canopy
Lamp Wattage: 169w MAX
These are my numbers. I figured I will let the plants decide how much light they need and dialed up to max out the HLG 135 v2. I read that over lighting will not hurt (Plant will cast off excess) the plant as long as you don’t cook them which I have done in the past. Wattage has been raised from 140w (+29w) now 169w. These are autos. Going to watch temps. I have found the heavier bags of water weight are helping keeping my temps down. As the water is used/evaporates from the bag I am seeing slightly higher daytime temps.
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Did not mention, but I am using RO water. I read @hellraiser 's Dirt Growing he was only using Cal Mag on “watering” events, Not Feeding. I did not apply Cal Mag, and after all Trio chems added to solution brought the ph down to 6.4 ph…steady reading.
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Old dirt has good PPM number I would keep feeding as you are
New dirt water only until PPM comes down to about 1000 PPM
I’ve noticed I get low PH readings when my PPM in the runoff gets high I would just keep an eye on it and see how it does for you
Plants still look nice and healthy good job
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Spanky,
Couple of Questions for you.
If I achieve Run off at 100 Oz. That 20% is 20 Oz of fluid I should try to achieve running out the bag. During my “Fluid Events” the bag itself is taking up space in my saucers, so I find myself dumping fluid at least once so they don’t over flow and another final dump of Run Off to the sink during the process.
Should my run off reading be measured at initial point where I can obtain a sample of fluid to measure, or at the final drainage point? Basically saucer Full of Fuid 1 or 2?
I need to go back and read the label on the Trio nutes bottle. I read somebody talking about a Flush every 3 weeks? For a flush I Guess it is how the leaves look but do you go 50% Run Off if you are " Flushing" ?
I am going to measure PH in both old and new dirt for both plants from this point forward along with PPM just to obtain data and just experiment. The grow is such a long process that spending a extra few moments to capture data is very important knowledge.
Are you still growing in dirt?
How many do you have in there total ?
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I have 3 plants this time and it is Tight. I have only grown 2 in there twice. Never attempted 3. Right now I got the plants going vertical fairly well.
This wedding cake can take the stress of cuts and defoliation. Nice strain.
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The pots should be lifter above the saucers bottom.
These are the ones I have. Do not order through amazon. HydroPros has the same thing for $2.60. They are available from many sources.
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Thanks. Last grow I had them sitting on wooden blocks but read about those could introduce mold and that raw wood in the grow chamber is a no no… I need to order.
That is correct @Work4iT as @beardless said you should have risers it also makes it much easier to get the runoff out. I use 12" risers with 16" pans which gives me enough room to use a shop vac to suck up the runoff (bucket buddy only used for the grow)
I measure PH and PPM after I wait for it to drip out it gives you a better sample. Make sure to clean up pan after draining runoff or you could get bad readings next time with any dried out fert left behind from previous runoff
As long as you do 20% runoff each time just watch the numbers and plant health and you won’t have to flush as much as FF says
Sorry about the late reply I was on the road returning home all-day Had a blowout tire On the way out and on the way back tore up the wheel well and under side of the RV pretty good took out some heater ducts the flooring and support for the shower and I haven’t opened it up yet inside to inspect for other damage which I’m sure there will be the only lucky part it was on the same side so the damage contained to one area. The first tire had less than 5k on it less than 2 years old the second was new and had no miles on it but it was an old spare
It also knocked off and collapsed the fuel fill tube hose dumped about $47 of gas on the ground
Stay medicated my Friends
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Not much worse than breaking down on the road. We have small light weight travel trailer and were planning a very long road trip West. 4 or 5K roundtrip. Some RV manufactures put the cheapest, lightest and undersized tires they can legally get by with. So before the trip I upsized the tire size (there newer trailers now use this size after consumer complaints) and upgraded load size as well.
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Yes I agree
I have a class C and just replaced all the tires with above the recommended ratings to be safe (so I thought) the old tires had some dry rot otherwise they were in good shape
safe travels all
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@beardless …My perceived problem is that I have a very confined wierd foot print size for my space 22x22.
With autos I feel using 3 Gal bags x3 per grow cycle is max yield potential for my equip.
I have and Need 10" saucers on the floor to jocky the plants around. The fabric bags have about a thumbs space all around when the sit in the plastic saucer. My real problem is the size of my space. I am locked into trying to group the plants under the light beam sharing the lamp glow.
I probably could find that perfect piece of plastic sized drip pan, and re arrange my fan bar, and get rid of what I am using for a shim under that but…I could lose 10 lb around my waist too. I found a perfect pan online awhile back but I wasn’t going to shell out $75 for it. I am living cheap by necesity.
I am looking that perfect circular item that I can use as a shim. Might use plastic jar Lids drilling holes in them. Those elevators don’t come in the size I need. I do feel as if I have a good draining before they go back in. I am going to tub catch fluid this watering event tomorrow. I will use Cal Mag tomorrow when I “water” this cycle I did not use CM during Trio feed.
Took some pics today. Will post soon.
… @spankyjr1 …Sorry to hear about your tire “remodeling” your RV brother.
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Update: 26 SEP (Day 29 Above Ground)
Few pics from today. These ILGM Wedding Cake Autos did not mind getting heavy defoliated last grow, so I removed some of the lower area that will not produce later that well due to lack of light penetration on all three of them. I don’t want or can I handle bushy plants anyway.
Raised my Lamp to 26" above canopy. Plants have grown some so raised the grow light pulley a few clicks.
I want upward growth and hopefully beautiful Buds Hanging off that upward growth later. I have never attempted 3 in my confined grow area so needing the space so it does not get too crowded.
I think I can pull it off. Hoping to collect 2.5-3 oz of cured per plant. I would consider that a win. Tomorrow when I “water” I will look at some more wire rope and maybe even some of those “Plinko”
Skewers that @caligurl was showing in her pics on her new thread to lock the branches in to the shape I want them to hold and grow upward from.
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You got this brother! 
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Going to get a good accurate PPM and PH run off reading tomorrow. I have a perfect plastic tub I can collect all fluid for FL Oz volume measurement too.
I think my used dirt may dip below a 1000, but due to old age and laziness I am going to water all 3.
I may feed the one if I get Gung Ho and energetic, so… stay tuned kids.
I will shift topic…Pretty Happy with the way that ILGM “Gold Leaf” Cured out from last grow attempt. Very Tight Buds, Lots of Red Hairs in the Buds. Nice High.
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