Girl Scout Cookies Extreme Autoflower discussion

Roger that :smiling_face_with_three_hearts:
But aren’t most feminized seeds genetically the same? STS on the same plant? Idk. My brain hurts :laughing:

You’d think so, but the seeds are “sisters” but not identical twins.
Let’s say a female plant has 3 pairs of chromosomes, one is A, one is B in each pair.
She gives one of her chromosomes in each pair in her ovum. The sperm that was created from her does the same.


So in this example, you see how a clone could produce different genotypes. 1, 2, and 3 all have their own.

This is super simplified obviously. Cannabis has 20 chromosomes, so there’s lots of potential for different combinations.

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I love the way you show the transition of the plants up to now. It’s more than likely the genetics of autos but it can also be from the transplant. I had less problems when I started using 1gal pots with seedlings. I also found it helps to use some of the soil the plant is growing in currently in the new hole @TroubleMan

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Thank you for dumbing it down for me :hugs:
I think I understand :bulb:

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Well thank you! I am always glad to help.

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I’m glad my post about my grow could spark such meaningful conversation amongst my fellow sticky green thumbs!

I do have another question though. Are CO2 boxes worth it? Or will I even notice a difference?

@OldSkunk
I was thinking about the transplant as well. I used the worst cups imaginable at germination. You can see the adhesive change colors in the pics. It was so hard to get them out of those cups bc the roots were sticking to the adhesive of the cups.

I will definitely be planting my next auto seeds in their final pots. I’m doing 3 gal this time but might do 5s next.

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@MidwestGuy @PurpNGold74

Waste of time and money. CO2 requires specific environmental conditions that are difficult and expensive for hobby growers to replicate.

You will have to up your game on environmental control: run an AC split and a dehumidifier to manage high temps and RH. If running a closed system for any length of time you will need to pump O to the roots to avoid suffocating the plant (roots need O). Usually growers with CO2 run hydro to push both air to the roots and insane salt levels (2,000 ppm plus). You also need extremely high light levels for CO2 to be of benefit.

Any system that relies on yeast or baking soda is not sufficient to derive any real benefit from CO2. Better to dial in all the other parameters before attempting this.

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Couldnt have said it better then the Legend above me

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@MidwestGuy @PurpNGold74
Why do the leaves look great on smaller plant, and on the lower levels of the tall plant but at the tops of the colas on the tall plant they are so droopy?

When I water they will attempt to pray but never quite get there like the lower growth.

Is it that they’re getting too close to the light?




I’m going to water with 1TBSP of unsulfered black strap molasses per gallon tomorrow.
Giving each plant 1/4-1/2 a gallon of water every 2-3 days.
I have a meter that tells me if soil is dry as well as soil PH.
PH of soil is 6.8 on both plants.

Can’t really see anything with the purple lighting.

Yeah, she looks kind of unhappy to me. How hot is it up there at the height she is reaching to? Have you checked DLI on them? Does she need bigger but less frequent drinks? (Soil should dry pretty completely before re-watering, then you can give a really big drink and let her dry again.) When you lift the pots it should feel VERY light before watering again.

I’m thinking she’s getting too much light or heat.

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I don’t know what “DLI” means.
Also, how much water should I give a flowering plant in a 3 gallon pot when it is completely dry? Should I give a whole gallon of water?
FYI I always wait until they’re light to pick up and feel dry to my finger. I water with filtered de-chlorinated water at a PH of 6.3-6.8

I’ll take another one with lights off and camera flash.

A three gallon pot will hold b/t 1/2 and 1 gallon of water depending on how dry it is. I used coco last grow, and I was surprised at how much water would go in before running off, and how heavy the pot was when watered. Even with soil, you should try for a bit of runoff when you water.

DLI is a way to measure the amount of light your plants are getting. DLI chart and thread This post talks about it but it’s long. The main gist is the chart, and that you can get an app for your phone (i-phone or android) that allows you to measure light. It’s called Photone. I have the free version, and the sunlight setting was found to be the most accurate for indoor growers.

I was accidentally hammering my clones which I was holding in a small tent and one of them got weird top leaves. The tall one is getting more intense light to the top than the smaller one, so she may be getting too much.

And of course, it may be hot up there.

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@Fiz THANKS!

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I’d say yes, to close to the lights.

If your doing organic you want that ph to be between 6 and 7. and only need to water 5 to 10% of the pots volume at a time with no run off at all. That’s if your doing organic.