I was wondering if anyone knows if seeds produced from a female plant that hermie’d and crossed with a feminized plant, would the seeds produced from the feminized plant be viable seeds to use in the future? Or will they all pretty much be hermaphrodites?
Thank you all for taking the help and time.
Good question! The seeds pollinated from a hermie plant will produce a female plant. But there is a chance that the plant will hermie itself, and should be closely monitored when in flowering. My last grow I used such a seed and it produced a great plant with no hermie. Trying a couple more now, hope to be as lucky.
I had an auto that hermied and pollinated a photoperiod. I have grown many plants from the seeds. None have hermied. I did however have one or two seeds out of the 6 or so plants I have grown from those seeds. Every grow is an adventure as I don’t know what strain I will get. But I have had some killer bud every single time. Just can’t expect the same strain.
@neckNflu G’day mate great question,was thinkin the same thing if i leave my flowers will it get seeds of the same brew,yes it will but is 50/50 on sex unless you femanise i found anyway,seems like a call for pheno hunting if you have seeds mate, if it hermid i would find out why was it to hot fox tails? or was the strain mate,conditions matter anyway,is a good topic
From what i understand, a hermied female that produces seeds will produce female. Same genetics as her. A plant will hermie due to environmental conditions. Provide different environment get different results. If under the hermied environment, chances will be greatly increased to produce the same results. I understand its more to do with environment and less to do with genetics even if the seed derived from a hermied mother.
My research has taught me thus far, that Female and Feminized are not the same thing.
A feminized seed is one that’s been created by forcing a female to produce male flower parts. Usually with something like colloidal silver, or silver thiosulfate. When this feminized pollen pollinates with a female plant, the lack of any male chromosomes produces female plants.
This is basically the same path an environmentally (similar to chemically) stressed hermie takes, so all seeds will be female. There are no male chromosomes in the process. Now we all know that “nature finds a way”, so it’s only 99%, and an occasional male will still be produced. The uncontrolled (unknown?) nature of an environmental stressor can also have more uncontrolled results I’d imagine.
If the plant hermies from genetics however (a “true” hermie) then there can be males and females, and yes, more hermies.
i would say, problem solved.
i was the perfect amount of high to read that.
amazing knowledge i just aquired, thank you
I have grown a total of 10 of the seeds. I actually have 3 finishing up this week. All 3 strains are different but females. All have produced good bud. I’ve only had an issue once and that is on thus grow. I’m sure it was my fault I over watered.
That is very reassuring, since I have some of these seeds started last month. Last year I had reservations about using hermie seeds. I thought there would be a 50/50 chance of male, and a 50/50 chance of hermie from these seeds. A very knowledgeable member here corrected me, and told me that the seeds would produce females, but may still have hermie genes.
I guess one can deal with the hermies as they come in. Once I had a GSC that hermied starting at the bottom branches. I didn’t want to remove the plant, and just removed the branches that had male flowers. After removing the lower 6-8 branches it did great, and had no seeds.
Any weaknesses or stress intolerances would also be passed down, which could create more hermies, independent of any real genetic hermie traits.
He is correct if it hermied it’s not always genetics. You could have had a simple temperature fluctuation on one day, or the light from your timer plug. This just says those will be passed down. Next grow keep everything perfect and you shouldn’t see seeds. But also if the genetics were that weak to cause the issue then maybe go another route. With me it was me. I never zipped my tent up and had all kinds of problems. When I used the seeds next round I did it right and had no issues. Didn’t waste my time growing multiple plants just the one to see what happened. She finished without issues so I kept the seeds. I did get random things because one was an auto and the other feminised like inconsistent flower times. Only one turned out to be an auto all the others were photoperiod. Also the strains are different because of the hybrid traits. I do plan on trying to cross them some more to create a stable seed. But it doesn’t seem like its all that simple to do. But I like challenges so hopefully over the next year I can accomplish this.
@Dirtydabber A out of state grower friend hooked me up with his latest, a couple years ago, called Amaretto Sour. I was very impressed with the buzz, smell, and taste. After finding three good looking seeds in it. I asked my buddy did he know what pollinated that plant. He said it was a Dirty Buntz that was over trimmed,(by his help), and turned hermie. Lacking any imagination, I just labeled these seeds ASxDB.
During last winter- spring grow I put one of those seedlings in an AutoPot. Was very unimpressed during veg, as it was tall and skinny. After the flip it stretched at least 2 1/2 times in height. But it transformed into a thing of beauty during flowering. Big round dense buds that were relatively leaf free. The smell, taste, and buzz was elevated above the AS.
I kept a watch on this plant for signs of hermie and never saw any on this plant. But I could have sworn that there were a seed or two developing on it. After harvest I found that this BB from ILGM had gone hermi. It was always short and very bushy, and it didn’t receive much of any trimming. Luckily this plant was under the exhaust fan, so not much of the pollen got to the other plants. Only a few seeds on each plant. Except the BB that was full of them, and these I just trashed. I saved the seeds from the ASxDB, and of course called them ASxDBxBB. Started two of these last month. It appears to have the short and bushy genes. They are smelling strong even during early veg.
Here is one of the ASxDB this year. They both appear very similar to the first.
Here is the ASxDBxBB.
These are the 3 I have going now. Actually they all finished at 7 weeks. The seeds all cane from the same plant. The darker one with the purple leaves seems to be the most popular strain to develop from the seeds. As I have had 3 before that looks exactly like it also the smell is the same. Actually this is 4 plants, I dropped a seed in the soil by accident and they both popped. Also since they were my seeds I didn’t do a soak, just threw them in and both sprang up
This seems to be the the most common strain.
And this one I let dry too much then overwatered, it looks bad but the buds kept growing. This one will be completely fresh frozen as I do not feel like dealing with all the brown leaves. But didn’t want to toss it with 3 weeks to go. I may pull a bud or two to the side to check quality.
But all thos seeds same plant and all are different.
From what i understand if the cause of the female the pollenated was due to stress and pollenated another plant then save the seeds from the pollenated plant no the ones from the plant that did the pollination. I had a super skunk pollent a entire tent 6 plants . All the seeds from the plants that got pollenated grew bud.
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Super skunk cross with purple gelato. Smoke was pretty good too.