Love and appreciate all your posts. I was a wild child I guess. I threw the keggers and could take orders for hard A. I would trade my weed to this dude on my paper route and barter for booze. It was a junior high and high school party dream scenario. Kids will be kids. The guys in college that didn’t get some of it out in high school were the ones that partied too hard and flunked out. At least amongst my circle of college peers at UW. Frat life at its greatest.
Knowing what I know now, I would way rather my kids smoke weed than ever touch a drop of ethanol poison. All the smart people I know at a mid 40s adult smoke weed and have since formative school. Everyone I know that’s burned out and tired in life reach for the bottle after work. I think they are aging faster too, but I cannot prove it. Kids are going to cut loose, just like you know your kid will speed the first month driving too.
That’s was me too. I was in the liquor cabinet and hitting the beer out the garage too. Smoking some weed in middle school for the first time.
I know from experience that mine were too.
But if I’d had the chance to hop a fence back in the day I’d have snatch some stash and made a dash.
Just saying if your seeds are on the front porch you’re advertising for a porch pirate. So keep it behind closed doors if they legalize it. Or have it behind the fence with your pit bull. I had a large chow chow that love to camp out under my plants in the backyard and I swore he was providing extra CO2 for nice Durban Poison back in the day.
I really don’t understand the Fed’s reluctance to lower it to Schedule III. All I can think of is they’ll lose law enforcement dollars.
When I see a medical professional I always tell them I use cannabis. The usual response is on the order of “Good for You!” and are totally unfazed by it.
I’ve had to travel out of the country a couple of times the last year and just stopped while over the border. Didn’t have any issues at all with poor sleep etc.
Their reluctance is all about the dollar. They are trying to figure out how to maintain control of a plant to make the most money. The problem is how can they justify restricting personal cultivation. With sched 3 it gives big pharma the power to explode into the market and because it’s still a scheduled drug they can impose restrictions.
If it goes schedule 3 I don’t think we’ll see anymore changes in our lifetime and I thinks its terrible. If they remove it from scheduled classification, they won’t be able to say you can’t grow this at home.
Further obstacles are big corp lobbying the gov to structure laws to benefit them.
Dumb ass politicians are scared to lose chunks of their base constituents. Along that same line, how stupid / hypocritical are people who vote their “morals” into office. If you don’t want to do something, don’t do it. But why are you telling me what I can’t do in my living room.
Sorry, I could rant about this for days. Years ago I spent some time in Ga. you couldn’t beer on sundays because the religious folks didn’t think it was right. This is the same stupid sheep mentality getting people locked up for hurting no one.
Dad was the son of a moonshiner in east Texas during the depression. He taught how to grow. He graphed apple on a pear tree. When I was a pup.
I guess I learnt from him.
I think about my folks all the time. The mistakes they made and how much they were wrong about.
But I also must acknowledge they didn’t have an instruction book, they just did the best they could. They were lied to and manipulated like everyone else. And of course, hind sight is 20-20, it’s easy to look back and analyze.
Schedule 3 will be worse than sched 1. There are a lot of articles des ribing how sched 3 would put weed in the domain of big pharma. Then getting caught with weed not gained through an actual pres ription( which will never happen as the drug admin wont allow flower to be dispensed by pharmacies). Getting caught with non prescribed in the original packaging would be same as getting caught with vicoden or adderal thats not yours. Jail time. The only acceptable reschedule is no schedule at all.
What about those that need access to cannabis but because it’s classified as schedule 1 can’t get access. Veterans can’t get access because the VA Deb it’s them access. Some states will not legalize it until it’s reclassified so those folks can’t access it. I suppose it needs to moved from its current classification and I suppose the route to classification 3 is a start.
I’d like to hear the arguments about what classification would be right path.
I suppose if it were treated like alcohol then it would be more available but still big business will always be waiting in the wing to take over.
I was doing satellite systems in the 80’s until big business took over and put us mom and pop business out of business. it’s inevitably gonna happen because we’re in a capitalist society. But what is there to choose from?
Your damned if they do or a crook if they don’t.
That is how I understand it to be as well. If you don’t have good insurance you are paying outa pocket. Deductibles, pharmacies, and doctor prescriptions if you do. Big pharma is dying to make this their government enforced domain. Via prescription and gm supplied big pharma medicine.
You are with us or you are cut off. You won’t make your state canadollars because the feds and big pharma just did a 50 state cock (Cana) block on you. Now they are putting pressure on NATO and WHO for the new wave of canna medicine…
Really not that far fetched. Look how fast rules changed recently. Things can change fast, Those are far from set in stone and are quite temporary seeming to me. No Supreme Court challenged yet. Descheduling sends a strong message vs schedule 3. I have a hard time seeing it any other way. As pointed out above, we are a capitalist country. It seems to always go big business and stomp individual rights.
Some things just don’t need scheduling. You could die from eating apple seeds, yet those are not scheduled (apples).
How does that help vets?
Big pharma would just set rates to the VA and make all the money anyway thru government credits and bad crap weed.
Any body lining up for the Mississippi dirt weed the feds gave people for the last 50 years.? Pre rolled leaves and stems. My throat hurts just thinking about it.
I guess that will keep me my tent for a while. Texas is not going to legalize it anytime soon. So while they make $$ on the backs of those of us we will have to carry on through the fog
Could be worse! You could be in Britain where big pharma (or just big company) with direct connections to government has a total stranglehold. British Sugar is the largest exporter of cannabis in the world. We can’t access it all and any attempted debate is closed down immediately. They even sacked their own drugs advisor, Professor David Nutt, when he published a report calling for a review and pointing out how relatively safe it was.
I would suppose the largest market in the world is about to classify cannabis to make it legal for export/import. Sounds like an opportunity in there somewhere for any capitalist listening in….
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I love how they call out Amazon too. Thank you for making me feel less like I am wearing a tin foil hat my friend @LateNightGardner.
I am generally not such a worry wart. Honestly, all of that👆 is the main reason I feel so strongly about making seeds. The video summed it up best. Those companies once in control, will flex w all their money and just completely end seed banks and dispensaries that aren’t owned by them. That video sums it up eloquently without the fear mongering I seem to creep into the tone of my dialog.
Descheduling would just let Big Ag take over the market. All seeds would become GM, and in the US at least, the Big Ag companies would own all the plants. As someone said elsewhere in this thread, there will still be seed banks outside the US, but if Big Ag starts growing cannabis, good luck getting them.
The move to Schedule III would open the door for Big Pharma, but unless they can see a way to make BIG money on it, they won’t go all in. And given the ubiquity of the black market, and the fact that the companies don’t have any depth of experience with growing these very touchy plants, it’s unlikely to change much of anything for MJ to go to schedule III.
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