I decided to start a new grow for funsies after a 20 year hiatus and venture into myco work, its been so long and so much has changed, you may as well call it my first grow. its my first ever soil grow, and my first ever grow with led lamps.
I posted earlier and gave a run down of exactly what was going on and the community you guys have cultivated here seriously won me over. way back when I was on grasscity posting grow journals but its gone down hill a bit and in my 40`s I’ve found my new home here. I’m so happy to be growing again and a part of such a solid community.
I plan to post regular updates and ask a lot of questions lol.
so for the grow journal I’ll loosely tell it again
I got some clones, and potted them up, but being new to led I burned them up and bleached them really bad,
I’m running a 4x4 acinfinity tent kit, promix-hp medium and GH flora 3 part nutrients
enviroment is pretty dialed, and things were rough in the beginning but are going my way finally, everyone is welcome to join in on this adventure, I welcome and greatly appreciate any input and advice.
I hope y’all stick around and y’all’s weekend is nice.
Watching. I have 3 bottles of your nutes i got for hydro. One thing i noticed is after mixing and sitting the ph regulates down to 6.5. My input water is 8.5 at least always. Check it and see if it regulates before PH adjustment.
checking in on the ladies today, started to see some odd coloration on the leaves and thought I’d snap some pics to run it by y’all, from the bit of googling I did it looks like it could maybe be calcium, magnesium or phosphorus deficiency setting in, but I did give them a dose of nutrients with 1ml per gallon of GH cal-mag on Wednesday, any idea on what it could be? plants are still growing crazy fast though, could be nothing but my overthinking or a small issue.
@Reed71 probably both honestly. this morning was another feed day so I upped the cal-mag supplement to 5ml per gallon like the bottle suggests so well how it plays out.
still growing like bamboo though. hope everyone’s weekend was nice
not much to update, the plants really seem to like the last feed and are looking a lot healthier , I did up the light intensity too without any burning, new growth is looking a better color
Trying to wrap my head around how the rest of this will go, I will probably water well tomorrow, wait 3-4 days and give them one more good feed and around the 15th maybe go ahead and flip to flowering just to finish up and get a better start on better genetics.
I’m not expecting to pull an awful lot, I’m also not sure how they’ll produce after such a rough veg period.
Would y’all flower just to kind of finish out for a better grow or ride it out on this one?
Edit: also I plan to do a little defoliation on the larger fan leaves blocking the branches after work
I do see a few Ca spots. If memory serves HP is a soilless medium. Just peat and perlite. That would mean you should feed every time you water and water daily to a good runoff. Also you would run a lower PH than soil around 5.7-6.2. I bet that will help get you where you want to be.
If your really fed up sure, but I see no reason to abandon this one. Just need to get things dialed in and they will recover fine.
If you haven’t already I would hold off on pruning. I see no reason to take solar panels from the plant yet.
That is great advice thank you kindly, feeding schedule is where I have been struggling a good bit I started full strength cal-mag last feeding on Sunday, 5ml per gallon and it seemed to help a lot. So basically I should be feeding full strength every watering and doing it until runoff? I have been alternating feeding and watering and watering until runoff with just the water so I’ve probably just been washing the nutrients right out
That’s actually the idea wash out whatever is left from last fed(The plant will have used what it wants and left behind a little of this and little of that.) and replace it with freshly balanced feed that has the nutrient ratio you want rather than whats left behind after a day of growth. soilless media are pretty cool, they just have a completely different set of rules than soil.
that makes a lot of sense, because I was throwing nutrients at them but in between feeds I was watering until run off, waiting 4 days then feeding again so as soon as they started to turn around from deficiencies they were getting flushed out I bet.
I fed them again today its the second full strength feeding, for gallon I’m using,
.25ml silica
5ml cal-mag
42.6ml GH micro
40ml GH grow
30ml GH bloom
1480 ppm.
@Storm was also spot on about the ph, I left my pump on to circulate the mix for an hour before feeding and double checked the ph and it was at 6.2, didn’t even adjust it.
I checked the run off and ph was 6.1 and ppm was 1450.
I really appreciate all the helpful advice and tips if I had had y’all from day one who knows how good my plants would look
A few things, I know you didn’t ask so feel free to tell me to buzz off. If you want to train I would wait till your done training to add silica. It’s great, but it makes the plant rigid. That can make it hard to gently bend and prone to breakage. Once your training is done silica will kinda hard set the plant and give it good sturdy frame to support big dense buds. Plus silica plays a big roll in the plants resistance to many pests and microbes. That makes it great in late flower when we are worried about bud rot and WPM.
Is that a typo? If not that is and insane amount of feed for one gallon.
I use this as my basis for soiless media and adjust from there. I can say though it does just fine with no adjustment. I used this recipe for years in coco and it works great. If you don’t have everything don’t worry some of it is optional.
You shouldn’t run your submersible pump that long. It wont hurt the pump, but it will heat your res which will encourage microbial growth that we do not want. Like the pathogens that cause root rot. It can also cause PH drift as those microbes feed on the nutes in the water. It’s better to run you pump for short periods more often to help keep the rez as cool as possible. Ideally under 70 degrees, but I couldn’t make that happen with the setup I had.
Please don’t I’m telling you that you have to do things my way or speak down to you. I love seeing new growers(and returning ones too) succeed.It’s just meant to be constructive advice to help you make the most of what you have.
yeah i greatly messed up typing out what i did, i dont know where my head is today my sleep schedule has been horrible.
the silica i was using at .25 per gallon so 1.25 for 5 gallons
cal mag 5ml per gallon so 25 total,
8.5ml GH micro per gallon so 42.5 total
8.0ml GH grow per gallon so 40 total
6.0ml GH bloom per gallon so 30 total
following GH recommended chart.
when i mix my nutes i let the water sit over night, then i drop my pump in to keep the water moving while i add my nutrients in order, and i wait 2-3 minutes in between each one to let it mix well, sometimes ill let it sit and mix an extra bit while i get my coffee going then come back and pour the mix into my watering can and go to watering. if the pump is going to cause issues ill stop using it i just saw a youtube grower doing it and figured why not i have a pump especially for ice water for my alcohol still and figured it wouldnt hurt and be easier than stirring,
no need to buzz off anywhere i really appreciate all the help and information i do really well with other hobbies but cannabis plants in soil just confuses the shit out of me, i did well with DWC a long time ago but never have been great with soil or coco or anything and just doubled down fungi hobbies so in a lot of ways this could be considered a first grow i guess and its been all uphill
usually the Manufacturer directions will give you the maximum dose to give your plant, but we don’t need them to pig out every single meal. Just like people, just because you can eat it doesn’t mean it’s good for you or helpful. I honestly feel that most manufacturers want you to use more so you buy more. Beyond it being expensive, every competent scientist on the planet agrees(more than you can say of most ecological problems we face today) that over application of Phosphates is an ecological disaster of epic proportions. That runoff has to go somewhere even if your flushing it down the toilet(Although most sewage plants are equipped to handle it as long as your not on septic). Those phosphates end up in the soil and eventually water which lowers water quality increases algae bloom significantly. It may not seem like much, but that increased algae bloom can destroy aquatic environments. Just ask the Florida boys about flesh eating algae. Normally I wouldn’t trust any government agency to tell the whole truth or even know that is, but here is some good quick info. Indicators: Phosphorus | US EPA. I have no problem saying our carbon emissions probably aren’t destroying the planet, but overuse of phosphorus combined with increased farming to sustain population growth is. Sorry for the soap box but this stuff is important to think about.
it is, and that’s probably ok. I thought you were storing it in a rez. If you use it right away it’s probably not a big deal since it takes time for them to grow. When you mix your nutes you should always add silica first then give it an hour or so to dissolve. It can take while to become homogeneous. If you don’t let it do so you run the risk of reacting your nutes into forms the plant can’t use. Next add calcium and give it 10 min or so. Same as silica but it dissolves faster. Then you can add the rest in the order on the chart I posted with just enough time between to stir it up. The rest will diffuse pretty quick in water to a concentration that is unlikely to react. You can then add plain low ppm water to bring your PPM down to your target before you do your PH adjustment. I even like to give it a little more time after that and measure PPM and PH again. just to make sure everything is stable before I give it to my girls. This way you can be very consistent and deliberate with your feedings. It will also help to keep your runoff numbers stable.
I was thinking about trying my hand at some fungus this winter. Haven’t decided yet.
you really should! even if you struggle with it at first it comes together really quick, its a lot of fun and you will learn a ton about molds and bacteria and fungi. if you decide to go down that road and want to talk shop I’ll help you every step of the way, I’m super passionate about it.
