Can’t get those bad boys started
(30year old landrace) tried many methods
Like water and then paper towel sprout but dident work
I Dot have access to heat mat so I did this
Place some of those seeds in wet coco and close the lid of container with bottom holes and place a light on it for temperature to be 23 C plus
Good luck with these. One of our growers takes a razor and slightly cuts the seed 
@Bunger64
How were the seeds kept during the last 30 years?
If they were in a chest freezer they should be viable. However, if they were sitting on a shelf in the attic or anywhere it was hot and dry or hot and damp, or just damp, they could be dead.
If they have’t been kept cold, you could try soaking them overnight in water, then putting them on damp paper towels in a plastic bag. Then put the bag containing seeds in the fridge for a week or two. After that try planting them.
You can also try smoking the seeds. That does not mean putting them in a rolley paper (cigarette paper used to make your own smokes) and smoking them. You get a smoking tent or fish smoker and put the seeds in that and let smoke from burning leaves coat the seeds. Then sow and see what happens. You can also make smoke water and soak the seeds in that. The smoke has a chemical in that can cause dormant seeds to activate and start growing.
To make smoke water, set up a smoking tent (table covered in a sheet of plastic) and put a fish smoker in it. Fill the fish smoker with leaves from various plants. Have the lid of the fish smoker open an inch to let the smoke out of the smoker and into the tent. Have an aquarium air pump in the smoking tent and run some airline from the pump to a container of water. Let the pump run while the tent is full of smoke and it will pump the smoke into the water. The chemicals from the smoke remain in the water and you have smoke water. You can also just put a couple of buckets of water in the tent and let the smoke settle on the water. It doesn’t work as well but usually gives better results than straight un-smoked water.
They probably lost their power during those 30 years due to bad keeping but considering that the seeds are kept perfect, and your failed attempts haven’t influenced them yet, i have an idea, i had this problem with under one year old seeds and i found out that the reason is the seasons! You see by putting the seeds in a normal fridge for a few days and then getting them to room temperature, you fool the seed that winter is over and it’s spring, the best time to come out and then they start to germinate.
Thank you for writing I will try that and I’ll keep posted
you’re welcome, I’m hoping for good news
I’ll try that actually I have like max 2k of those seeds and I don’t want them to be wasted
Try soaking some in a solution of 1% hydrogen peroxide: https://bio-protocol.org/en/bpdetail?id=3875&type=0
Maybe a light sanding
seeds do not require light sanding (scarification if you mean) to germinate (normally). However, they do need darkness, moisture, and warmth like room temperature (70-85°F / 21-30°C) for successful germination. Also Once sprouted, seedlings need light immediately to avoid stretching or weak growth.
If I were desperate, everything’s worth a try within reason
I read somewhere darker seeds and almost black means the shell is tougher. I soaked 5 days nothing. Took and scraped the seed put in water peroxide again was started in a day. Good luck sometimes they can be quite stubborn.
Respectfully disagree, these seeds are 30 years old and probably stored improperly…anything is worth a shot to get them to germ. I’ve had 3 month old cured properly seeds not germ and need a little help
If you’re patient enough, you can put some seeds in your refrigerator for 4 to 12 weeks. The subsequent dramatic transition to room temp may help to wake them up:
If the 1% hydrogen-peroxide protocol I referenced previously doesn’t work, the next thing I’d try is gibberellic acid:
You can goose the gibberellic acid and/or 1% hydrogen peroxide a bit (i.e., increase the germination rate by as much as 13%) by adding fulvic acid:
Currently I put 1day old socked seeds in to wet paper towel and then fold that paper towel and put in a Ziploc bag and that bag in to fridge let’s see in few days if it did not work I will usd h2o2 method and then other
I think you missed a detail here. The fridge time should be a minimum of 10 days to 14 days. It should be in a very barely moist paper towel. Like squeeze the paper towel out like you are squeezing out a lemon or making a snow ball. Not enough water to make a drip or they will rot like compost. Barely moist. Like a wet wipe, not a dripping wash rag.
The whole idea of the fridge is to simulate winter. From those seeds point of view they have been laying around for the 30 year summer and just want some cold weather to activate them. Ripe new fresh seeds do not need this, old seeds it cannot hurt and sometimes works.
Then, two weeks later the seeds are transferred to a clean paper towel (don’t want mold) and put into warm conditions: warm room spot, heat pad, ontop fridge etc. Now is when the seeds sprout. They do not sprout in the fridge, they are just cold hardening there.
The idea here comes from fruit farmers. Most temperate fruit seeds will not sprout without a cold hardening. It simulates winter. Peaches, apples, plums, blueberries. Most non tropical fruit needs to go in the fridge a month to sprout them. If you try only 1-2 sprout. If they are chilled a month most of the seeds pop hard.
You want to only do about 10-12 seed per paper towel and space them evenly so they do not touch. This prevents a moldy seed ( you WILL get a couple) from jumping to the rest. If they all rest together in the middle, or a pile of 100, the one moldy seed engulfs the whole rest of the clean pile. It’s a sad easy to prevent mistake.
Check them for mold in the fridge every couple days. If one looks moldy pluck it, and get a clean paper towel.
Hope this makes sense, happy growing. 
One last Hail Mary. A few seasons ago I found a film canister of old seeds I had from the 90s thru early 2000. None would sprout despite my best effort. I could not just toss them, so I poured them all out ontop of a spent harvested 3 gallon grow bag, sprinkled a thin layer of soil, stuck them in the corner of my lot, and walked away. It was early spring, like April. Sometime around late June or July I noticed the grow bag had about a hundred seedling sprout. Sometimes just putting them out in nature works too is the point.
The ILGM source I referenced says nothing about putting the seeds in a moist paper towel before refrigerating them. Is the moist towel a refinement that’s known to help? Must it be kept moist throughout the cold soak?
BTW, that source recommends 4 to 12 weeks.
I have never read the ILGM slow seed advice. So I took a minute to read it.
The source also states:
When you think about nature, seeds usually fall into the soil or get covered up, which naturally gives them a dark, moist place to start sprouting.
This advice is only given from my own experience cold stratifying fruit seeds for 20 years. I graft and sell hundreds of them every year from sprouts. If they say to not do it wet it is because too many people sog it and rot them. These are not new fresh mail order ILGM seeds.
2 weeks is what works for fruit minimum. An overwhelming majority of seeds I have tried pop with this much cold. Be it apples, plums or even old cannabis seeds before. 4-12 is sometimes necessary. You are totally right. But the original poster stated “ a couple days to work” which would not be sufficient and a waste of his seeds. Compost. This is another reason to do small batches. Try 2 weeks cold, then, theee, and so on. Your point is well made @Venturi so thanks for pointing it out.
I have found with fruit seeds that as soon as a batch will germ, the rest of the storage lot seem to germ with the same amount of time. Fruit seeds will crack in there in the cold. Cannabis will not (for original poster) So the minimum is what I would try so they do not rot. You could try it dry, but what happens in the winter if I was in the woods and fell off a dead rotten plants. Rain or snow or both. That is also why I recommend spreading the seeds out into small batches rather than an all in hurrah. Some will rot for sure, all the dead ones.
Maybe store the dry seeds in the fridge too along the damp cold stratifying seeds. 2 experiments at once. 
Yes, you were right to point out to the OP that “a couple of days” is way short of the recommended period and therefore isn’t apt to be effective. Your idea of starting with a 2-week cold soak and then trying progressively longer periods if 2 weeks doesn’t help is also good.
Your suggestion to do the cold soak in a damp paper towel surprised me because the ILGM Guide I cited doesn’t mention one. I thought maybe you’d read of that refinement somewhere or discovered it for yourself.
I can’t tell from your posts whether you’ve tried it both ways and found that a damp paper towel increases the effectiveness of a cold soak for fruit seeds. If so, I agree it’s worth a try with cannabis, especially in this nothing-to-lose situation.
During germination, the towel must be kept damp for obvious reasons. A cold soak is a pre-germination measure, though, so I’m wondering whether keeping the towel damp during a cold soak is necessary.
Hmmm I have some in paper towel in ziplock I will put some more in other
Directly in dry ziplock