Budz' Dreams in Coco

Oh yeah. Bottle experiment follow up. Regardless of long term. I used the one part A concentrate this morning. So it was 3 days old. Ppms and pH landed as normal. from now on that’s how I’m mixing my nutes. Water bottle filled 3/4 of the way. Add my part A and salt to one and B to the other. Since I went from spending 10 minutes getting A and S to mix completely before adding B. Since you can’t tell if A is fully mixed untill all movement stops. Takes a lot longer in a bucket. Now I can mix all my nutrients in a 10th of the time I’d spend waiting for the water to stop to be sure. Plus with the concentrates. No worries about pH rising over time. Since you haven’t even bothered with pH yet. Just a tip for anyone tired of stirring. I almost bought a wave maker… I’d put this technique up against any other for speed of mixing up jacks… since it takes me 3 minutes to mix a whole batch. Weighing the nutrients included. Then I use them all in one day or I bottle some. It takes longer to bottle a batch than To make a batch though. Lol

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Great idea! Might just steal it.

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Feel free. One of the few ideas I have to attribute to my engineer brother. Unfortunately. Lol. Since I went to school to tell him he was wrong after all.

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Oh yeah. This ones for me. The blue dreams the day I flipped them to 12/12. Hate scrolling.


When they were still in trash a$$ fabric pots. Seems like a gimmick to me. I understand the air pots, won’t bother with them either tho. Fabric pots I feel take away above ground growth since the plant is having to focus on growing new roots because Everytime it tries to establish a ball it gets pruned away. Who ever said root balls,which exist in nation, where a bad thing… stupid. Root bound is caused by neglect, not plastic pots.

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Why do you say they are trash?

Because out of the 4 I’ve used. Two cost me 40% of harvest. Then I gave them another chance. And they started to do the exact same thing. So I had to transplant after flip. Which I would only do if absolutely necessary. If I would’ve left them in fabric they’d be half that size and surely be infected with budrot already. Just like last time. When I use plastic… I have no issues. Except them trying to get too big. Lol
Hmm. That may be a plus to them. They would prevent a plant from growing too tall. Since they force the plant to spend more time on root development instead of growing.

Let’s think of an analogy. Let’s go back to ancient Rome. You have aquaducts brining water to your city. The more people (budz) the more water you’ll need. The more bath houses… now let’s say someone keeps stopping that aquaduct from being able to bring as much water in as possible. Because someone keeps breaking it. So now you’re sending out another. Wasting recourses that could be making your citizens happy (buds) instead.

This is my logic. Also. Plants only become root bound if the grower causes it or doesn’t trim their mother plants roots. If you use an appropriate sized container and water as you should. Will never becomes root bound. Plants go root bound as a defense… with exception of mother plants…
Defense being they are not getting enough water so they try to make their own bowl. If they get enough, they’ll make sure to keep room.

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My root balls. See. Plenty of room for water and nutrients to get around and be absorbed by all roots. But when you starve a plant…


They try to trap any water in they can get. That’s why they are so dark. Dying of thirst. Just like my mother plant. Like I said. I’ll trim her roots soon ish.

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I won’t argue on this one. Because it’s plant biology. Has nothing to do with cannabis. Well it does. But it has everything to do with all plants that aren’t grown in the desert. And maybe ferns. Since ferns are so ancient they don’t produce seed… the spread by spores.

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@dbrn32 also has a picture of one of his transplants coming out of a plastic square. Has massive earthworm sized roots stacked. Definitely not getting root bound. I know it was in coco. And he waters in his coco grows a lot more than I do daily. that’s why his roots grow like that. They get all they need and just swell. There’s a problem with that too. Could be watering less with less time and get the same or better results. Since there is very little surface area on large roots stacked. But I if you get tons and tons of skinnier and longer roots. You have massively more surface area for uptake. Since any roots covered by roots aren’t absorbing anything unless you are pouring just tons of water though. Which he does, in comparison to me. A lot of coco growers using gallons+ per day. Spoiling the plant works fine too. I’d rather toughen them up and abuse them a little. Make them search out their own nutrients. Cannabis performs best with at least some abuse or from being overly loved. I don’t have the love in my heart anymore. Lol. This is where the statement “everyone has to find their own” shines brightest. I only tagged dbrn because that one he showed me was damn impressive. I’m sure he’ll show you it, if not it’s on my old thread right after I transplanted the first kraken to final home.

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Yeah. That looks like it. But not as I remember. Did remember it was on someone else’s thread though. I remember thinking they were much thicker. Lol. But still. Proves my point there’s no reason to let them all get pruned away by fabric.
And yeah I know. You go into fabric after right. They just don’t agree with me (fabric pots).

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Could have just been different picture. I’m sure there is more than one. Definitely came out of plastic pot though.

I’m betting you seen pic from pit that was from pot that seed was started in. These were transplants from solo cup. They only spent a couple weeks in this pot.

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Miss Skywalker



Not bad for 20 days since flip.

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Thought I was done pruning. Was showing issues today so I thinned them out. didn’t expect them to get so big. The right side one now has two colas as high as the light. The light is in-between them.






And then of course the monster crops from the left side one.

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Taken yesterday

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She had one getting out of hand already. Put a stop to that. Lol.



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H3ll of a battle!!

Can you explain your cloning? Are you just using soil or what? I’ve never done clones but I may want to. TIA

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It’s reused soil. I dropped few drops of peroxide before watering till run off. Then take my cutting and stick it in. If I was more worried about bacteria I would’ve made a honey tea. But the only things that’ll stop a clone is bacteria, overly compact medium and not extremely high humidity. I do dome them.

My first findings and arguments. Lol. Ended up growing thr first kraken instead of a sog.

She didn’t stay a mother long. It’s her third generation I’ve had for a bit now

3 hours later.


Window shot. Best angle I could do without opening.

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Left one of the clips on the blue dreams a little long. Will have to watch that brown mark. whoops. That one’s not my baby anyway. Lol.





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Hmm… not exactly on topic. Should probably throw this in experiment topic. But that’s only me saying that. Lol. Over that. So here are the super crops in the veg tent. Which is 24/0 atm running 101w on the light and 21w on the single fan. Timer I was using for it was… blinky… it’s what I assume forced the Skywalker into such a fast transition. So removed it obv. Anyway. I see no issues yet. For those that are wondering. Yes I intend to chop the majority of the bud off once it’s in revegetation. Want the surface area for moisture absorption at the moment. :upside_down_face:


And yes @Low those are 1.75s … lol

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:sweat_smile::joy: I finished one of those today, onto the next!

Watching to see how this turns out!

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