Bruce Banner, DWC, 2x2, Phytomax 2 400, indoor grow

Thanks @PurpNGold74 that’s it exactly, I am adding calmag at 1ml per liter, should I up it to 2ml per liter?

Thats a solid call. PH in range no?

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Solid call, do you mean yes to more calmag?
Ph is steady at 6.4 thanks to the ph balancer gadget.

Yup. Not sure what brand you are running or how much is specifically called for. But 1ml sounds like 1/2 strength. Double up and watch for more spread. Also! Some calmags come with 1-0-0 NPK ratios. That means Nitrogen is in it. So watch for that.

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Thanks @PurpNGold74 the label says 1ml per liter is full strength, I will use 2ml per liter next refill and see how it goes.
This stuff is 5.2-0-0 so lots of Nitrogen.

No prob. Watch that 5-0-0. Thats why i was warning you. May get some burnd tips

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Thanks mate, she’s looking healthy so the nutes are about right.

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Weekly update pic;


She’s grown a fair bit in the last week, will flip to 12/12 in a week, she’s drinking 3 liters a day, no more sign of calmag deficiency, no burnt tips, I don’t see any reason to up the nutes as she’s growing nicely.

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hey man, can I talk to you about the concentration of nutes? calmag shouldn’t need to be more then 1ml a gallon,
what are you adding at 2mls a litre?

the ph should be 5.8 bud,

these values seem high to me…

whats your ppms?? im worried you might be heading towards too much of a good thing…

what exactly have you added?

@kettle I am using a ph balancer gadget that is keeping the ph at 6.4, not ideal but it means I don’t have to deal with ph daily.
Ppm is around 1200.
I have added 2ml per liter of grow juice, 2ml per liter of calmag, 1ml per liter of Cyco Zyme, 1 scoop per 6 liters of Great White, 1tsp per 6 liters of molasses.

ok ok, wow, I cant believe your plant looks so good, but you are not following a plan?

So most people I know of use like a set of 2 part base nutes, im using canna aqua.

When I run out I may change, cyco are made in oz, so they are cheaper because of the shipping.

in veg its it could be your white shark, a+b, calmag, zime, silica, rizofood- molasses

so everything is kind of added to the base nutes if you know what I mean.
they also have buffers in them to keep the ph in the right zone.

you don’t seem to have that, and id say your ppms could be lowered, I think

but if your trying to do something different, :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

I run 1/4 strength everything

Your plant will never really grow at 6.4 PH


You’re out of range for Boron, Mn and phosphorus.

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I’m not running on any plan, just winging it.
I’m not adding silica.
My nutes are single part, it says on the label that 10ml per liter is full strength, I am using 2ml per liter, they are Ionic brand.
The plant seems to be thriving.

they do look good,

its just that the grow juice to me seemed like an additive that you would add for micronutrients, some extracts with humic and fluvic acids etc…

wing it by all means,

but a 2 part veg and a 2 part flower in 1 litre bottles is a small investment, my thoughts at some stage what you r giving them will be insufficient. @peachfuzz, and @Grandaddy013 may offer a different opinion and they have more experience then me. don’t worry about the silica…

may only need to change when u flower…

I just want you to keep going as wellas u are…:grin:.

and to me your concentration seem very heavy. even though they aren’t showing any burn… it concerns me…:smirk:

@kettle is onto something. As u progress into flower, many growers let their ph levels drop a tad. P (among other nutes) is more available at the lower ends (both soil and hydro). So there’s logic to his statements.

If it aint broke… just food for thought as ur grow progresses. And u dont have to drop it much. 6.2 would be just fine.

Also as rootmass grows, ur ph stability will drop as well. I know after 3-4 months in a pot, some plants struggle to stay above 6… and im in soil

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Why not, it strengthens the plant. You will need strength in your limbs to hold your fat buds up, bot ONLY if you get off the 5-0-0. They need LOTS of the other during flower. Nitrogen is mostly used during veg. You can grow a big pretty plant on nitrogen, but your “fruits” (buds) won’t be getting what they need to develop. I use GH Maxi series because it’s a powder, therefore less expensive.

The issue of ph
Veg I run between 6.0 - 6.2
As I approach light flip, I let it start working down to 5.8
As flowering progresses, I’ll let it go down to 5.5
I try to keep it around 5.6 from mid to late flower. If you have any questions, just ask :sunglasses:

Oh yeah, I’m in hydro

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Thanks for the replies.
I decided to do something extreme and cut her down to half size to make more room for buds, I now have 55cm between the light and scrog net, here’s a quick pic;

And a quick pic showing the space for growth;

I can’t believe it my ph went up to 7.7 and ppm to over 3000, I flushed as best I could and redid the nutes, she still looks healthy.

id consider lookin at what your putting in the tank…

end of the day it should really have 15% nitrogen (N), 30% phosphorous (P), 15% potassium (K) and 40% inert ingredients in veg,

2 part systems do this , they are in 2 parts because if they are in the same bottle chemical reactions occur and they clump together,

are you sure its all balanced?

I wouldn’t have the ppmms ove 1000 in veg I cant imagine…….

it will get worse in flowering, and they need more k and p