What the Hell is up with this?

To Start With in these Photos the Gorgeous one is LSD the Dwarf is Gold Leaf purchased through ILGM. They were planted at the exact same time and are in the same system about 2 feet apart under the same lights with a drip line for each.
Hybrid system with media, hydroponic and eventually (with roots) deep water culture.
Triple Decker System, Media, Aeration and circulation
PH is fluctuating wildly because of the cycle and the inherent nutrients in the media. It is 5.5 now after 12 cycles 1 day it will be up to 8
TDS & EC 1872
Indoor Grow Tent
2 1000W LEDs

  • Temps; Day-90 Night - 70
  • Humidity; Day, Night Don’t know the RH
  • Ventilation system; Yes, Big jet tunnel fan with carbon filter
    No dehumidifier
  • Co2 - have a cylinder but will need to build another air tight room.
    Oh and I was in the middle of super cropping the LSD Bad Mamma when I thought, man before I rip this lil’ fucker out, maybe I will ask for help.
    Also you may notice a couple of seedlings in the pic, they have nothing to do with this post. So LSD 30 inches in 2 months beautiful Green leaf 8 yellow and curly. Identical environment. Could have a handicapped seed, it was the only Gold leaf out of 10 that germinated.
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Got some pics in normal light?

Welcome to the forum!

Well, that was my phone light. I thought that was better than the grow lights.

And thank you.

Wait, my other photos aren’t showing on my original post…

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The yellow leaves on the Big Mamma is from where I moved one light way down near the failing plant and the seedlings. The Big girl ventured too near the sun!

The thing I’d like to address is why only 1 out of 10 germinated, did you talk with support ILGM will definitely not let that fly?

I think your :cat2: came and laid on your plants man!

do u have a cat :cat: ?

I frigg’n hit the cat :cat2: symbol and dog came up!! Let’s see if it happens again?

See… WTH

@tpdaman check your run off. I’ll be willing to bet that with your ph swings, this has caused the ph in your media to be off.
She’s showing nitrogen deficiency because your ph in the media is too high, and she’s not taking any in. It’s locked out.
After checking your runnoff, flush accordingly. Up
Or down. Flush with twice the amount of water per size of the pot. 6.2 approximately is the run off you should have for proper nutrient uptake.

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They replaced them. I don’t have a cat. I am trying to supercrop the biggun.

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Ye definitely something was laying on top of it they might have knuckles now my cat would lay in the bottom of pot are they still alive an growing

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Sorry i totally missed your question. Qhats ur q?

The plants are gonna knuckle because they were bent

@tpdaman if you can, copy and paste this support ticket and fill it out to the best of your knowledge. If you don’t do something or don’t know what it means just say so. We will get you on the path.

Strain; Type, Bag seed, or NA:

Age from sprout:
Age from flower:

Soil in pots, Hydroponic, or Coco?

How often do I water and how do I determine when to water:

PH of runoff or solution in reservoir?

What is strength of nutrient mix? EC, or TDS.

Indoor or Outdoor:

Room size:

Light system, size, height from plants:

Temps; Day, Night:

Humidity; Day, Night:

Ventilation system; Yes, No, Size:

AC, Humidifier, De-humidifier:

Co2; Yes, No:

Any other info you think is pertinent:


The thing that has me stumped is that one plant is thriving while one does look like it has N deficiency with the exact same conditions.

That was the idea. Just trying that technique. I have decided to pull the little dwarf bergman gold leaf out of this system and put her in a pure hydro. I’ll flush and see. Honestly was trying the “Super Cropping” Technique with the other gal to see if I could kind of “stunt” the LSD for the Gold leaf to catch up. It is time for the LSD to move to flowering. We will see if the gold leaf survives the transplant. I don’t have high hopes. I sure do appreciate all the feedback! Sincerely.

I think you are right. My media is a fuckin work of love by a gardener, not me, but it is affecting the PH in my reservoirs. I am gonna try to move her to pure hydro for a while to see if I can save her. If so , it would be cool, the plant is so little but fully developed, I might really make bonsai buds.