Vegetative Stage?

I know it can be different for all, I know there’s different ways to speed up the veg stage, I’m just wondering how long you should veg for your plant to achieve its max yield?(Royal Queens says plants should be kept in veg stage for 60 days to give it the opportunity to achieve max yield)

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How long you keep your plants in the vegetative stage really depends on a few things like the strain your growing, how fast it grows, and the size of your growing area to work with.

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I always veg too long. I leave them to grow then flip and they go off their head and take over my tent. I could be wrong but you need to allow for hardware up top, then lighting distance to canopy. The space you have left is grow space. Genetics aside from what I gather they double in size after you flip. After saying all that I still end up with a jungle :sunglasses:

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Now when websites give you a estimated height of plants are they referring to the total height, or the potential growth height once flipping and going into the flowering stage, for example if the estimate height is 180cm is that the total height after both stages, or are they just estimating the flowering height, so you’d have to add that height on to how high you let it grow yourself in the veg stage

Does anyone agree the longer you let your plant veg, the better a chance you have at achieve max yield?

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Yes that is a given longer veg = bigger buds= bigger yield but don’t veg to long you may stunt the growth unless you’re using the plant as a mother

What do you mean by this?

And say you try and veg for 5-6 weeks what’s a sign that you should no longer veg and you have to flip to flowering

I don’t have a Veg cycle. Not what other growers have because I do a 12/12 start to finish light cycle. :+1:

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I’ve gone 12 weeks for my 2 most recent grows. You get larger plants and it does increase yield.

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Are you flipping clones right away? Seedlings? No Veg at all?

What is this magic you speak of?

I don’t do clones as I have around a 800 seeds in my personal seed bank. My seeds go straight into their forever home. No transplanting for me.

I am switching to 15 gallon fabric pots. No Veg at all. The 12/12 cycle is how I grow. It gets a tad cold in South Texas. Sarcasm off…it is brutal here and the house AC unit doesn’t cool down the grow room.

Magic? There is none. I found what works with me and this is how I pimp roll plants. Fair warning you won’t get my results as I don’t recommend my style of growing. You do not have the same gear as me nor the weather. Its a challenge to growing monstrrs and that is what I do. :+1::+1::+1:

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@MidwestGuy. @Davyg @Blue89
Now I know they say to reach maximum growth/yield to give your plant 3x3 feet to grow, but that’s when it grows out and gets much more bushy, but does each plant also need this amount of space in vegetative stage?

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No is the short answer. You can expect a plant to grow an additional 50 - 100% in size during the first several weeks of flowering.

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It’s all up to the cultivator it’s your choice when to end veg and when to flip so long story short it’s your decision :call_me_hand:

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Guys have this nailed. When you flip is your shout. 12 weeks of veg in a 4 foot tent will have it bursting at the seams when it doubles in size for flower. Veg to suit the space you have or veg to suit the turnaround time you want. Some growers do a few weeks and flip to flower, some don’t veg at all. It’s in your hands :sunglasses:

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I’m one of those growers that do not do a Veg stage…period. :+1:

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Re 60 days of veg - is general guidance and is really asking is it mature enough to transition to flower.
This was flipped on total grow day 55, 41 veg days. It is showing it has reached flowering maturity.


Tradition says you use an 18/6 veg light cycle. I used a 20/4 veg light cycle. Did this speed up the cycle? I imagine it has some effect. I was growing autos on a 20/4 schedule and just didn’t change the timer figuring it certainly wouldn’t hurt.
Without any conditions as to space, light, pot size etc. logic tells you the larger the plant the more it can produce. Standard size apple trees produce a hell of a lot more apples than dwarfs and semi-dwarf trees. Dwarf and semi-dwarf trees are grown on grafted root stock that limit their growth potential.
In cannabis this is achieved through genetics, time and training. If you are growing is a small closet system you are generally not going to attempt growing a sativa. You will lean toward indicas, bred for height, not delay veg beyond when it is mature enough and train its growth to the size of the closet. If you do this all perfectly you will maximize your yield based on the conditions and constraints to which you must adapt.

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