Phoenix Grow, From the ashes...... more DWC

upgrades, perpetual grow… more like perpetual work… :roll_eyes:


one always needs 80 litres a minute… :face_with_raised_eyebrow:
slightly bigger pump too, just to avoid the root getting stuck issue… they were tiny roots…

these things are the worst, so long to make, but they work well… light test…


we have penetration, im not topping these for a bit… not untill i can play with the screen… and let the middle catch up :grin:

Velcro’s all done. :grinning: no sewing…:sweat_smile:

hope you all are well

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That was a lie, :lying_face: it wasn’t a photo of the light test, although it looked identical, I had my thumb over the lens… here’s my first attempt before I turned the flash off…:grin:


have a good one legends.

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so Im thinking these may be burns, from the leds? like leaves that were hidden in the shadows pruned into the light?

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or, calcium/magnesium deficiency? :face_with_raised_eyebrow::roll_eyes::thinking: :smile:

well the lights are lifted thanks @elheffe702,

and I think ill add more calmag tomorrow… I did 2 mls a gallon… should be more shouldn’t it…?:upside_down_face:

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@peachfuzz, morning bud, hope everything’s going well… :grin:

we are getting that rain on the weekend, :sweat:It reminded me of something that ive read in other posts about blackouts and hermi’s. so im going to put off flowering until after…

man we get a lot of blackouts in summer. but mainly in the storms at night, so I was going to have my lights on 6am-6pm. I have a generator but it powers the whole property over 8 tones I think, uses 10 liters diesel an hour, and I have to start it… thoughts?

and ll make the other systems tomorrow. (not 4 u, to remind me.)

oowwww… the SS coils are in the city, so I can get the chiller going at some stage. but im not too worried, my temps are 72 constantly… easy when I control the whole room… but I will get the chiller going… ut with so much to do.:slightly_smiling_face:

now, im all ready… I think, what do u think…?

thx bud. :yawning_face::grinning:

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I run my lights from 6 pm to 6 am …
Power is cheaper during those hours and less heat …
Lights out wont cause Hermies…
Lights on , during lights out , will cause Hermies…
:v::sunglasses:

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so I was using the 700 scale in the usa u use the 500, I just found out, doesn’t matter but.

so my ppms are 370, 440, 520.

@xxpain4uxx, ok pain for u im in the same boat I think just a little in the future., scroll to the top. im going to build one now ill take photos if u want…

also I have my first thread where I made a lot of mistakes you will avoid starting here.

the main problem was root issues, but mainly ego? perhaps, I should have asked for more help, hydro and indoors is quite different if id started like u I wouldn’t have wasted 4 months and a lot of coin.

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Thanks I will look to you for advice, on my first dwc plant just doing two to begin with I dont wanna cry to long when I kill them lol.

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I didn’t really explain, this is essentially my first hydro grow. I stuffed up the grow before flower, in the last thread and tried to save 9 clones 3 clones took… this gave me hope…

so the tub there is my first inside grow going to flower, soil or hydro. and all the dwc tubs are just one tub pumping to another, with air and no light… your in good hands with everyone whos helping,

if you read through you may get answers to your questions, I asked a lot of questions… hey @peachfuzz:smirk:

good luck

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so I have the new system built to replace the silver one…

moved the next six to go into the flower room into their new home, this lid I can pick up and walk over, and I don’t have to pull their roots apart so there is 3 money maker, 2 mystery seeds, 1 big bud/ww that got held up, from last time.


the system I decided to replace wit the yellow tub system.

@peachfuzz, should i just cull one, the chocolope is a sativa dominant i think… make things a whole lot easier… or one of the mystery plants but wich one… :smiling_imp:

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rains coming this weekend im so excited :smile:,
this is what our yard currently looks like.


give it a week, ill take another photo. :grin:

Woof. :grin::yawning_face:… building building building…:yawning_face::smirk:

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so I should be a bit sensible about this, I have 2 choclope, 90% sativa, and 2 amnesia haze 80% sativa, the rest are indica mainly…

I can keep them all alive… :face_with_raised_eyebrow:but I should prob just put the saliva’s together?.. I got time…

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its a bit slow above, I thought something might be wrong, everything looks perfect ph, ppm etc… actually should it be higher?

anyhow I had a look below and I think they are happy…:grinning:… and the browns not rot I promise u.

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Drop them in a bucket with peroxide and water mixture adding a little peroxide each of the following three days.

If they are used and clogged use a pressure washer on them or you can try some products that break down salts and sludge and then peroxide them

Air stones are porous and every square millimeter of them are reachable with liquids

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thanks bud, :smile:yeah the pressure cooker idea is over, with the soaking, the pressure cleaner and the air compressor :wink:, I like the adding peroxide each day and forcing it through, its where ‘i’ thought I was going to come unstuck, using it through the grow as the plants grow the root surface area increases and if u don’t top up the sterilizers so risky… for me i forget things like that. and it costs a lot when u have even 2-300 litre volume… where as the bacteria sets up shop and actively protects, interesting but if u really compare the two for use in a system… for me.

how are u anyway bud?:smile:

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I hardly sterilize a thing. If something is really dirty or clogged I might clean and sterilize it butt other than that I just try and rely on the microbiology that i add to the reservoir over sterilizing.

I add hydroguard, hygrozyme, and clear pond.

Obviously nothing works as well as it did when it was clean but I’m lazy and do as little as possible so as long as nothing is obstructing something then I usually don’t worry about it. I will clean in the middle of a DWC grow butt hardly ever sterilize.

Where I said “microbiology” above, that’s exactly what I was referring to and not organic fertilizers. Those are bad for DWC and will clog the hell out of your air stones

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If sludge is your enemy in DWC and not salt build up then this product, which is formulated for clearing up stagnant ponds, will do wonders for your reservoir

Clear Pond Beneficial Bacteria Liquid, 16-Ounce

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000GZA69E/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_lsiVDb653XQCE

here’s The description of the clear pond on Amazon

If salt buildup is your enemy then look into general hydroponics Florakleen.

General Hydroponics FloraKleen QT - Mineral Salt Clearing Solution

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001IA1P0A/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_9wiVDb016J73N

There’s also a product called sledge hammer by another company

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thanks man, so much.

Im using hydroedge (hydroguard), stresszime (aquarium product, I got before I got the hydroguard and used it exclusively on your advice (and I understand microbiology). And it worked perfectly:smile:).

and buddy, I just got white shark, interesting thing with this, I don’t think im going to add it all the time or ill do one big dose and several smaller doses. they should set up shop in the roots and live… thatzs my way of thinking… and I only have a small jar…:grin:

the day I moved over to biological control of my systems was the first time I thought, after a long string of mistakes, I can do this.:smile: sterilizing and the cleaning… was never going to work for me…:face_with_raised_eyebrow:

but I do clean, almost fermenter clean and sterilise, everything before I use it now… then I cant blame myself.:grin:

now I put a product in about a month ago and it stained coated everything black.
so my roots look bad, but they smell really good. would you clean this with something?

i know, but they are not slimy and they smell nice i will never forget that smell… :face_vomiting:

plants look fine…

hope you are well bud! :smiley:

flora clean ill get some… but i pick everything up walk it to the bathroom ant clean… but this gets used for flushing too…

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@Amazon66, hey man I’ve been around lately in the wings ready to offend someone. :smile:, this is my battle…:smirk:

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