Our baby, a random seed that we got to sprout

It never got warm enough for her to go outside yesterday, but she has some new neighbors, lavender, spearmint, oregano, and strawberries. Not sure about container gardening with strawberries, but it’ll be fun, as well as mask movement of plants.

Even though she didn’t go outside, she grew enough again last night to touch the light, giving herself a burn on one tip. She may only have a few days left in the window, she’ll probably start touching the ceiling of the garden window tomorrow or the next day.

Today is her germination birthday. Four weeks ago I put a few seeds into a moist paper towel, already we have a good sized plant, and it pushes out new leaves constantly. No pictures, but she is throwing her third and fourth sets of seven-leaves out the top whilst the five-leaves are about to the edge of a twelve inch pot. A top view allows sight of very little bare soil, most is shaded already. The crosshatch pattern of light, you can see allows light to the bottom leaves while maximizing size of the upper leaves. Another amazing adaptation, so the canopy isn’t complete.

I’ve read about pinching off the lower leaves so the plant doesn’t put energy into growing them out. I have some very obvious candidates for pinching off, but when to do it? Based upon time, or number of leaves, or gut instinct?

One of the small leaves has a few small holes in it, most likely a pest, then I found a little bug like a mosquito on the main stalk. It could have been an illusion, but when it warms up today she’s going outside and I’ll check her over carefully then.

I ran the aloe through my protein shake blender. Not her smoothie blender, to be clear :joy:. I then added enough RO to allow the aolein somewhere to leach, so I’ve got half a jam jar full now. It never separates out, so the mixture seems complete.

I’ll put it on the tomato first, but if the leaves keep getting holes I might speed up the testing process.
@Oldstoner @FloridaSon @Matthew420 @garrigan62 @Countryboyjvd1971

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Quick update, the strained aloe mixture sprays great. When sprayed on the tomato plant, my wife saw swarms of bugs evacuating, and didn’t appear to come back.

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Aloe spray recipe

Cut aloe frond as far down as possible, it looks better and there is more goo at the big end. Lay the frond curved side down (kind of like a cup) and slice from one end to the other. Try not to cut clear through the skin on the opposite side, it makes it easier to scrape the goo out later.
Filet off the skin on the entire top, then slice the goo with a crosshatch, back and forth, up and down motion; cut it every which way, but again try not to cut the skin on the bottom of the frond.
Scrape out the goo and stick it in blender, add RO in same amount as goo, blend until slightly frothy; add RO as needed. Let mixture steep for two days, shaking regularly.
Strain out through cheesecloth or similar. This concoction can be sprayed on foliage and on the soil, and can be poured on the soil as a fertilizer and insect repellent.

@garrigan62 @FloridaSon @Matthew420 @Countryboyjvd1971 @bob31

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I’m so glad this is helpful for you and thank you for posting the method you used.

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Yesterday was her first day of full sun, not through a window. We also decided not to use the reflector every day, so it was natural sun only.

This was her fourth-week birthday, so we also discontinued the indoor lighting so she can give us some preflower indication that also precludes an old disabled guy from hoisting her around two times a day, and cuts in half the number of time she is moved daily. One of the last nights she was under lighting she managed to grow into and touch a bulb and burn herself, so she’s grown out of the indoor setup anyway.

I’ve been giving her two bottles of water daily, and it seemed pretty good. The timing wasn’t always spot on, as I had a doctor appointment, so was going to water her at the end of the day. We were eating dinner alfresco when I noticed that she wasn’t her perky self. She had followed the sun then collapsed when it went down, as shown on the time lapse video. Two bottles of RO right away, and this morning she is touching the top of the garden window where she’s been living. Quick recovery, and, she grew two inches. Remarkable plant.

She seems to me that she is growing out as much or more than up. This might have changed with the new growth spurt, but when I look at plants online they look taller and less bushy.

Another observation of this unique plant; her branches are square to each other. The single leaves were 90* from the first leaves, then the three-leaves were 90* from them, and so on. Alternating branches are directly above the ones two layers down. The branches themselves move around, but they come off the trunk in a series of crosses, as seen from directly overhead. This might be because of all the movement, but it sure seems genetic.

This morning we plan to give her the rest of the aloe mixture, then spray it in with a couple bottles of water. (The RO water is from a machine under the sink, the bottles are just vessels to transfer it, so I’m not spending any extra money on it.) My wife had some leftover potting soil from the herbs, so I put an inch on top yesterday. It’s the kind that has extended water retention, basically soil designed for Arizona sun, so it has a bunch of mulch to it.

So far, so good, and I know I’m not overwatering.

@Countryboyjvd1971 @Matthew420 @FloridaSon @garrigan62 @bob31

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Hmmm… Maybe it’s intuition, or possibly the ever so slight difference in roundness at the base of the pre-flower, but I can usually spot a male before switching to 12/12. I still wait to make sure. But, I am rarely shocked or disappointed by males. I just shake me old dome and say, “Knew it.”

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What a pretty little baby! Hope it’s a girl!

Recent pictures would be nice. :slight_smile:

Where are the pics @Bunny-mike?
Sounds good but but but hahaha can’t leave us hanging

The pattern of leaf growth is normal coming from seed. Maybe you’re more accustomed to seeing the growth pattern from clones?

You’re cutting it close for sexing them. 12/12 is coming quickly! I believe you should have enough time, but that’s close.

Pictures are nice to see…

Your girl, hopefully, will do fine outside. Just continue to be cautious of any possible frost until all danger of them have passed. If one comes, cover or bring in for the night.

Looking forward to your progress…

The basket comes in handy for protection from any covering during frost potential…

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Cutting it close? Which way?

Our lows are just breaking into the forties, our winter is pretty much over, but I’ll be sure to keep the tomato cage in mind.

The last time I tried growing, either Nixon or Ford was President, so there may be a bit of a spotty memory. This is the first time I’ve tried growing in a long time, and that was just seeds thrown on the ground in my garden. They came up, but I went in the Navy and never got a chance to smoke any of it.

No photos, my but the first set of five-leaves is 12" across, the second set of five-leaves is 11" across, and she is almost 6" tall. There are five levels of branching, the first set of seven-leaves are about 8", and the second set is at about 3". Every branch off the trunk has a second branch on top of it that is growing branches of their own. It looks like the photos I see on here of grows that are doing well.

The tomato plant that was the growing buddy has bare gotten her leaves to the side of the pot and that’s stretching it, and is only a few inches high.

I fertilized this morning with the rest of the aloe concoction, then followed with 16 oz RO sprayed on the plant and soil. Later today, or maybe tomorrow I’ll fertilize again with the urine mixture. Seeing how she does I may alternate days, aloe, then urine. Still mulling that over.

Cutting it close was in reference to you putting it out to sex. The Spring Equinox is rushing up on us and then it’s veg time.

Sounds healthy enough from your description…

Wow, it’s been almost a week. In that week I’ve settled (for now) on a feeding and watering schedule, she has gone from 11" x 12" x 5.5" high to 14" x 16" x 11" high, and she’s thrown out seven and nine lobed leaves. I’m not sure I’ve heard of nine lobes, but she has little “legs” on the stem end of the leaves, parallel with the stems.

She’s had several days confined to the house due to weather, and several days of good sun. I’ve also done the reflector trick twice, giving her a few days off between “supercharged sun” days. The reflector is also a decent windbreak. Even if you can’t get the plant in the lee while maintaining good sun, it forces much of the wind up and over the plant.

We readjusted the lighting, so now the artificial lighting where she sleeps st night comes on at 6AM and off at 8 so I can move her after the sun comes fully up, and back on at sundown until midnight. It also looks much more like normal activity with the light leaks.

Feedings are in a three day rotation. All mixtures and waterings are with reverse osmosis (RO) water.
Day one is urine mixed at ten to one, about six ounces total. Sprayed/sprinkled on the plant and soil, followed by a bottle of water.
Day two is aloe mixture sprayed/sprinkled as on day one above.
Day three has a new item in rotation, one pump of Miracle Grow foaming succulent food. 0.5-1-1, she seems to like it. While not exactly homemade, it is leftovers from her succulent gardens.

My sprayer got clogged with aloe that I didn’t dilute hard enough, so we made a sprinkler with a “large drink” big plastic Jack in the Box cup. My wife tried a safety pin until it hurt too much, then took the dab pointer and punched about a zillion tiny holes in the bottom. Hold the cup over the plant to be watered, and pour in your fertilizer mixture, wait for it to drain onto your plant, then just pour your water in on top. The flow slows a bit as the water gets nearer the bottom of the cup, so the water helps rinse the cup as it rinses the plant.

She’s had three underwatered (wilted) days, when she stays outside for the whole day. She drinks a 16 ounce bottle of water daily, inside or out. That water is right after her feeding in the morning. I’m running into a timing issue for the second bottle, that she needs when outside, as she won’t usually take two bottles of water in the morning, so needs water later, maybe at five, maybe at three, but if too late then she’s wet all night. I might have pot size issues, but her pot looks about the same as many I see here, and, I don’t want to carry too much dirt around the house. She comes into the house every night, and will for the duration, so a huge pot isn’t going to be possible since her bedroom is on the opposite side of the house from her safe sun location.

Lol, update as I’ve been writing this, I overwatered (one bottle) and my urine mixture ran out onto the patio. That’s part of my water problem, loss of materials and stains on the patio.

I had to nip a few things. The leaf that grew into the CFL (three inches in a night) turned brown and crispy at the end so became asceticly displeasing; I took the brown crispy part off. The original “one” leaves were dipping into the soil as she followed the sun so they came off, too. One of the “three” leaves then came off; the other “three” and then the “fives” will likely be next. The leaves/branches that came off the trunk directly above each of those leaves have shot out, and will soon shade cover the leaves closest to the soil anyway.

She remains symmetrical. Leaves (which are becoming branches) coming off the trunk are two, directly opposed to each other, and the next set are ninety degrees off the ones below, alternating directions so it resembles a green four-lobed pinwheel from above. The trunk is sturdy, roughly the diameter of a felt pen, like Flair. Easy to see how Manila line is so strong. The leaves take “rainwater” and route it to the drip line of the plant. This makes me think that my watering should just be at the drip line, but that’s now past the edge of the pot. The pot is 9.5" high and 14" diameter.

We still don’t know what her sex is, but either way the experience has been fun. In a world of random plantings, she looks computer generated.

Lots of great advice on here.

@Oldstoner @Countryboyjvd1971 @garrigan62 @bob31 @Matthew420

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Nice glad to hear she’s growing up

A lot can be learned from a random seed grow . You can play with them much more good luck

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Yesterday she had supercharged sun, today she’s 12.5" high. Inch and a half in two days.

She’s just past five weeks from seed.

Today was almost ninety (F) and she spent the day in the sun. We’ve found that she needs several drinks throughout the day in this heat, so I can only imagine how much she’ll need when it really gets warm. She’s now getting fertilizer and a bottle of water in the morning, and another bottle or two about 3. Some runoff, but mere ounces. We are maybe coming to the conclusion that if we aren’t home, she gets the indoor lighting setup. She doesn’t use as much water those days since it’s only in the 80’s inside the house, so can get through the day when we have to go out of town.

Fertilizer is applied every morning now in the rotation. I’m careful to watch for any signs of burning, but it’s all green and growing. The fertilizer is diluted so far to help with that, and she seems to eat it up. Urine is cut 10-1, aloe is cut about 20-1, and both of the commercial fertilizers are a squirt into 16 ounces of water. Once these are applied to both the foliage and the soil, they get watered in to make a total of one and a half bottles of water (24 ounces), which usually has a few drops exude from the bottom.

The mint is quite aromatic, as is the rosemary, thyme, and oregano. This makes for great camouflage, greenery and plants and herbal aromas. If we’ve had to nip off a leaf from the mint plants it goes on top of the soil for our girl. If her buds taste minty, then cool, and if it does nothing else, it’s good mulch.

She seems to be throwing out preflowers in the crotches of some of the top branches. We only went 12-12 for a couple of nights, she shouldn’t be in flower yet, should she? Or is this normal at five and a half weeks?

@FloridaSon @garrigan62 @Matthew420 @Oldstoner @DissidentPriest

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May have just been ready to go plus if they are getting steady nutrients like that and not burning they will be ready to soar

I think I would agree with Oldstoner. Are you sure she’s not an auto? My Blueberry started preflower at 38 days.

We aren’t sure what it is, male, female, or even the strain, but there’s a good possibility that she’s GDP, which would be wonderful. The preflowers are tiny, too small to determine sex.

She grew to 15" last night. She grows towards her lighting, so we can guess that she’s happy with the cobbled together system of old shop, aquarium, Christmas, and makeup lights.

This morning’s feeding was cactus/succulent food (0.5-1-1), one squirt in a half bottle of water, followed by the rest of the bottle.

It’s supposed to be 92* today, so we’ll have to monitor her water throughout the day.