So can anyone tell me why the hell the leaves on this plant i got changed appearance so drastically? They used to be completely normal looking with 5 individual sections, now they look like this.
Before:
After:
She’s throwing a finger at me, or you? 
they just grow how they grow. It’s kinda like people some have big feet and some have little ones
I think she is stressing something. If she is she will show it soon. If just ugly then she is ugly. Keep ph in line and watch i suggest.
Could be stress the first picture looks like she is hungry.
If it’s an autoflower that could do it as well autos do what they want sometimes
Looks like a deficiency of Iron or Nitrogen or maybe lockout.
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What strain, Seed bank, or bag seed (photo or auto)
Bag seed, it was old seed a coworker found im assuming its photo.
-Age of plant
3 weeks as of today into veg.
-Method: Soil w/salt, Organic soil, Hydroponics, Aquaponics, KNF
Happy frog soil from fox farm
-Vessels: Type and capacity of container (fabric, plastic, etc)
5 gallon fabric pot
-PH and TDS of Water, Solution, runoff (if Applicable)
Water ph is around 6.8
-PPM/TDS or EC of nutrient solution if applicable
Ive been using fox farm big bloom, and grow big, and the ilgm veg nutrients
-Method used to measure PH and TDS
Just a regular ph meter
-Indoor or Outdoor if indoor, size of grow space
Indoor 2x2
-Light system List brand and wattage/spectrum
400w MH bulb in air cooled fixture with 400w ballist
-Actual wattage draw of lights
400w
-Current Light Schedule
24hrs on
-Temps; Day, Night
It stays around 85°F
-Humidity; Day, Night
Stays around 40%
-Ventilation system; Yes, No, Size
Yes 4inch vivoson high power in line fan pulls air through light cooling tube and from the carbon filterin tent
-AC, Humidifier, De-humidifier,
None of those
-Co2; Yes, No
Yes just a co2 bag
Everything looks great to me. How about taking a look at these items that shouldn’t hurt and possibly help.
- Add some Epsom salt or Calcium Magnesium additive. I’ve been using GH CaliMagic. For fast growing plants that need additional support to thrive.
- Add some Red spectrum to you lighting. This should really make a difference in flower. MH is a great veg fixture but lacks much needed red to provide that late season finish. I use mine throughout flower.
- Change light to 16x8 and then 12x12 when you want to initiate flower.
- Run your Red LEDs fifteen minutes before lights on and 15 minutes after lights out.
Enhanced Flowering: Red light, particularly in the 620-750 nm range, is crucial for flowering. [It encourages bud development and can increase yields]
Extended Photoperiod: By adding red light before and after the main light cycle, you can extend the effective photoperiod. [This can help in maximizing the plant’s growth potential without significantly altering the main light schedule]
Phytochrome Activation: Red light activates phytochrome pigments, signaling the plant that it is time to grow and flower. [This can lead to taller plants and more robust flowering]
Overall, incorporating red LEDs in this manner can optimize the growth and flowering phases of your cannabis plants, leading to better yields and healthier plants.
I just use the MH bulb during the vegatative stage of growth during flower stafe i use a 400w HPS bulb in the same fixture. The plant ended up just slowly turning back to normal looking and actually looks healthier then the gold leaf seed thats in the same tent with it.
But i did end up noticing something else today that i havent noticed before on any one of my other grows i have done too. It almost looks like a tiny little dab of rosin coming out of the leaf stem on a couple leaves.
Any thoughts on that at all?
Geez IDK, looks like some type of sap sucker. I don’t think it’s any rosin I’ve seen before on my plants.
I’d clean plants and area then apply some Neem oil. Make sure to include the soil and area under the pots. I use Captain Jacks Neem oil. You can buy it premixed or I get the concentrate and mix myself. It will last a few seasons and works great for Fungicide, Insecticide and Miticide for Organic Gardening.
If you get the concentrate you’ll need a handheld pump sprayer if you don’t have one already.
Glad they’re looking better. I did the same with my MH light for veg and swapped with the HPS for flower.
Thanks I appreciate your words of wisdom. I will give that a try. Its just weird cause it is all indoors too, it has an exhaust vent going to the outside but it has a metal mesh screen that I put in the ducting to keep anything out, plus not to mention it would have to pass through the carbon filter too.?. Last grow I did somehow there was like 5 or 6 flesh flys (if you know what they are) they are common to find on outdoor grown pot but how the hell would they get passed all inline fans and all that too? And those flys are huge too. Obviously they are dead now and only lasted for about 24 hours before they were all dead cause they had no food source i just found it really strange…
But anyways thanks again for all the help.
