Northern California - 2017 journal

Grow Journal 2017

I grew outdoors last year from clones (Northern California). This year I have built an indoor grow space, and starting from seeds to get specific strains. I’ve been a successful vegetable gardener for many years, and familiar with soil gardening, fertilizer, composting, and seeds. My approach is low cost, and I’m just growing for friends and family.

I have built my own grow “tent” framed with pvc pipe and walls of cardboard (free bicycle boxes). The tent width is larger than 4 foot long fluorescent fixtures, and about 3 feet deep, 7 feet tall. The walls are painted white for reflection, the front “door” is a tarp with reflective color. The roof is plywood with some lumber cross beams for strength. The inner roof has hooks and chains to support lights. Floor is layers of cardboard, waterproof plastic, and tarp. I have a power strip mounted on a side with timers.

Growing in 5 gallon buckets. Soil mixture is Summerwinds (garden store) organic potting soil, worm casings, lime, perlite, sand, and peat moss.

Lights are Sun Systems 315 Watt LEC (Philips bulb), and some fluorescent fixtures with grow spectrum bulbs. When closed, the 315 Watt light keeps the temp around 75 degrees F. I have an interior fan, but not ducting air outside, or filtering. I pay for electricity, and my rate is $0.40 per KW hour. With a 18/6 light cycle I figure my monthly cost to be about $216.

My current run was planned to be two each of Blue Dream, Northern Lights, and Jack Herer. Hope to take clones of each strain. I germinated seeds in water for 24 hours, then moved to damp soil in 4 inch pots, under fluorescent lights, in a cardboard box at 75 degrees F. I got 2 Blue Dream seedlings, 1 Northern Lights, and failed to germinate 5 out of 5 Jack Herer. I may try to germinate another Northern Lights, but will probably get Jack Herer seeds from another source. Not clear if I should start those plants late in this run, or wait for the next run.

I’m using a cheap 3-way soil probe for moisture, pH, and light. The pH reads between 6 and 7, but I am skeptical if that is a true reading.

As a vegetable gardener, I think low cost organic fertizer should be good enough nutrients, but looking for comments on the (more expensive) cannabis formulations. COMMENTS?

I live in California, and am reminded that the California Gold Rush mostly profited the vendors selling materials to the miners. Everything related to cannabis cultivation seems overly expensive, and a lot of false claims. Manure tea in a bottle for only $20!

Questions:
In a grow tent, how long should I do vegetative growth?

I can move my plants outdoors in summer to flower. Should I do that, or keep them in the tent?

Do I need special nutrients for cannabis, or can I treat them with the same nutrients my tomatoes and peppers like?

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Welcome @Budlite to the ilgm forums. It looks like ur off to a good start! I like ur diy grow room.

Some of the other guys will be around to give you some pointers. The one thing I think you will want to keep in mind is ventilation of the MJ odors. They give off a great smell to those of us aficionados but not everyone is as keen on the odor!

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I had odor concerns last year with my outdoor grow, especially near harvest. None of my neighbors complained, or ripped me off. I was reading the post someone did about a DIY charcoal filter and ducting, and I may build something if it gets too skunky, or if someone complains. Also I know that I may need some cooling when the ambient temperatures are hot during summer. Thanks for your comments!

Welcome to ILGM looks like you have everything under control you’re at the right place if you ever need any help everyone will be more than happy to help you if needed to have a growing have a great day tag me if you have any questions @ in front of name will tag the person

Hi @Budlite and welcome to ILGM forum, the greatest forum on earth :grinning:

I have done my first succesful growth of cannabis entirely with tomatoes/vegetables and flowers nutrients plus dehydrate chicken manure for tomatoes/vegetables .

However, they are high in nutrients and I recommand you’ll go a 1/4 to 1/2 dilution strenght, if your mind is set to go with them :innocent: :v:

My comments on specialise product is that they worth it because they have a more balance NPK and micro nutrients for a cannabis friendly growth. Have you consider to give a chance at the ones offer in the main site, I have heard great review from experience growers.

Hoping that you’ll find this useful :grinning:

~Al :innocent: :v:

Hey there @Budlite NORCAL FOR LIFE!
It sounds like we are in the same boat…
I did really well outdoors last year and am hoping for the same or better this year I grow straight in the dirt and have only fed lightly with good results I plan to fertilize a little more this go around but won’t spend much $$ I think natural and organic fertilizers are great, we have a yard full of animals so we get some natural nutes and use compost the chickens seem to keep pests to a min except the worms late in season, I spend a lot of time picking cutworms anyways welcome and good luck this year it looks like your off to a great start

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Yes, “Weed” grows like a weed. But for those selling a cash crop, I can see how it makes sense to maximize the harvest by spending money on exotic nutrients. I’ve never seen any published, creditable results of how much those Products raise the harvest. Maybe I’m only getting 75% of maximum possible growth, but how much does that extra 25% cost me. And I believe that cannabis requires less nutrients than vegetables. I like chicken manure, it’s cheap and effective. But I’ve never had a 3 foot tall cola.

I got a two footer on a short cycle outdoor late in the season last year. Sour Bud was the strain. I’m a minimalist when it comes to nutrients.

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I guess the key question is, could you have gotten a 3 footer with more nutrients. I don’t know.
I see a clear escalation to intense analysis of N-P-K and other trace nutrients with a big jump in expenses, time, and effort. If you were selling pounds for $4000 you would quickly break even, but that’s not my intent, and I don’t want to make this take up all my time. I believe most casual gardeners over-fertilize. Thc farmer is another website forum for the more “commercial” growers.

I can’t wait to see your northern cali outside plants. I have to admit that I’m jealous, I wish I could grow outside haha. I’ll be following for sure. I love outside plants, especially the monster ones haha

Off topic: This photo cracks me up.

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Thats looks about where im at central cali cops just look at plants shake there heads and move on some ask questions like how long it takes or if it will be good stuff lol
Its funny but cool

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That’s awesome. I would totally have one like that on my front porch if I could haha

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You don’t have to grow outdoors to have big plants!

Oh I know that, I was just talking about having it out hanging off my porch

Could these be university dorm rooms?

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Updates

 2017 Schedule:

1/13 - Received seeds
1/15 - started germination
2/8 - transplanted to 5 gallon buckets
2/22 - topped plants (5 weeks)
2/23 - installed scrog screen


Topped Northern Lights at 5 weeks.


Making a scrog screen. I used concrete reinforcement screen with 6 inch openings. This is what I use for tomato trellis, allows reaching through the screen to manipulate plants. I used a compressor and 1 1/2 inch staples to fasten it together. Lucky to have lots of power tools.


Now to train the growth to spread and fill the screen.

Was using a cheap soil probe for pH, but I suspected that my pH was not correct. Got a digital pH pen. Measured 5.4 pH on my yellow Northern Lights, blocking nutrients. I will be controlling pH from now on, should get better green color and faster growth.


Northern Lights at 5 weeks with pH 5.4 problems.

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Things will definitely improve for you after getting the pH under control.

Looking up…

At 6 weeks, 2 Blue Dream and 1 Northern Lights are at scrog screen height.

Blue Dream

Starting training to wire screen.

Now that I’m wiring into scrog, I will not be able to move or remove my plants. I had them out for a final heavy watering and to clean the buckets. From now on all my runoff will need to be removed from the saucers with a turkey baster and big sponge. Still not feeding nutrients, except the yellow Northern Lights got some Ironite minerals and a little organic fertilizer. Runoff pH is in the low 6’s. Lights are still on a 18/6 cycle.