New grower, indoors, yellowing leaves

First-time grower here, looking for feedback – I have two photoperiod plants growing in a 2x4 tent with conditions around 75 F, 70% RH, and .8 VPD on an 18/6 schedule, started in happy frog soil. I’ve been lightly watering every 2-3 days with pH between 6.3-6.5.

My first mistake was placing lights too high, so my seedlings were pretty leggy initially. I lowered the lights at day 7, but they were too intense (about 450ppfd), and I had slight yellowing appear on day 8. I adjusted so they were getting around 270ppfd, and that helped.

On day 9, I started Solomon Veg A+B at 1/4 strength. Day 10, leaves were coming in strong but stems were leaning (from the earlier leggy-ness) and they looked a little dry (slight leaf curling). I put cups back on as humidity domes, and water droplets had formed by day 11, but the leaves looked better.

On day 12, I think I overwatered or overfed. The soil seemed dry, so I fed 2 cups RO water each with veg A+B and calmag both at 1/4 strength, pH 6.27 after mixing. I think I watered too close to the stems this time.

Day 13, the first set of true leaves had yellow spotting, and the soil was pretty wet. I transplanted them to fresh dry soil and only watered a couple oz of plain RO in a wider circle.

We’re on day 16 now, the first true leaves look worse, and some spotting is coming in on even the second set on one plant. New growth seems okay, but I’m not entirely sure.

Looking for some general feedback and thoughts on the viability of these seedlings moving forward. My plan is to only use plain RO water and not mess with them too much the next few days.

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Welcome my friend!

First thing to understand is the soil has enough nutrients pre amendment to last like 4 weeks roughly, you shouldn’t have to add any nutrients to it for about that long, do you have pH,ppm meters? I would suggest only giving her pH water 6.3-6.5 for a week or 2 and see what happens I think you overfeeding her.

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Thanks friend!

Got it, that makes sense. So no calmag too even if my water is RO? Yeah, I’ve got the Apera PC60, but I’ve only explored measuring pH so far.
Thanks for the suggestion. We’ll see if she pulls through.

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I’m not sure about ro water, so maybe one of the following can help with that. @Lostgirl , @OGIncognito , @merlin44 @Serf @Storm, @SausageMahoney

Hopefully one of them above can help better, again welcome to the forum!

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Thanks for the tag @DanB
I have never used RO so no help.

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Does this help any. Im not RO savvy either. @midwestguy @AfgVet @Docnraq

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Seems helpful. Thanks! Sounds like I should add calmag and get familiar with measuring ppm.

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Yes fo sho. Ppm and pH dialed in will eliminate a lot of issues. Welcome to ILGM. We are all here to learn and help.

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My biggest mistake is overwatering. They can tolerate being thirsty better than waterlogged.

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150 ppm of cal mag will make your water stable and give an accurate PH reading. You can’t read ph of RO as the meter will jump all around, but the water must have bicarbonate added to it to give a steady PH.

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Amen Brother Sausage!

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RO water will just match whatever the rest of the stuff is already at for the most part pH wise and stays pretty stable. If you are trying to check the EC/PPM you won’t get an accurate reading or anything unless something is added to it. So you can go the calmag route to get a base PPM read but if you don’t need to add it then just measure the ppm once everything else is added and make sure to do slurry checks or from run off.

I don’t grow with “soil” so not sure if RO acts the same as how I grow but I only use RO water. Also I’m tired and stoned so apologies if this didn’t help or make sense.

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That would be my thoughts as well. :smiling_face_with_sunglasses:

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Welcome gro-bro. For the past few yrs I use MG seed starter potting mix. A lot of growers don’t care for MG products but I’ve seen some very experienced growers on youtube use it with no problems. The nutes are mild in it and no issues at all on that end. . Everything I’ve grown in it does excellent with no problems at all. That’s as far as I go with MG products. I don’t start feeding for at least a month. I like to keep it as simple as I can. Less is best imo when starting out. Just my 2c. :smiling_face_with_sunglasses: :love_you_gesture:

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You should definitely not be feeding plants that young in pre-charged nutrient soil. That stuff will feed your plants for a month.

When using RO water you don’t adjust the pH you just water your plants. If you’re adding anything like Cal mag or seaweed then you’ll need to add at least 150 PPM -200PPM so that you can adjust your pH. RO water should never be adjusted unless you put in additives

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@Lostgirl , @Growdoc - This is my really good friend back in the Midwest. He’s super smart and a great learner.

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Thanks for the tips and shared knowledge, guys! Lack of cal-mag in my plain RO and early overfeeding were definitely my issues.

New growth has looked much healthier this week. 5th node started coming in on both plants and I’m doing mainline, so I topped just above node 3 yesterday and cleaned up leaves and growth sites below it today.




@Growdoc @Lostgirl @IsItSticky Curious to get your thoughts – what do you think has led to the difference in size of my two plants?

They’re both wedding cake fem seeds from homegrowncannabis.com (not really sure of the quality of genetics from here, tbh), both germinated and sprouted on the same days, both have received the same feedings, but #2 started to outpace #1 in early seedling days, and the disparity is much more noticeable now a few days after topping each. #1 is still growing, just much slower than #2.

Do you think it’s just a slight difference in genetics?

(note, I think the rust spots on the older leaves are from a slight calcium deficiency – I was away for the weekend, and soil was completely dry when I returned)

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Genetics and simply variation from seed to seed. All plants have hundreds of phenotypes, meaning even though they are the same strain, ten seeds planted may exhibit ten different growth rates, colors, bad size, etc. I don’t know of any strain you could plant 6 plants and get two alike.Those spots don’t really look like cal deficiency to me, mabey some water splashed on them and caused a little burn. Calcium deficiency usually has small spots close together and wil turn brown in the spots.

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What he said :backhand_index_pointing_up:

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