VIVOSUN 448
VIVOSUN vsfd6500 18/6
Ppfd last check Tuesday 600-640 Photone with paper filter
1 rotational clip fan. (3 more on order)
Carbon filter. (Not running) sucks humidity out.
Rh 40-55%
Temps 74-84
FFHF 70%-30% perlite
Water 4-5 days. Ph6.5-6.8 on watering. Last water Tuesday. 16oz. No runoff to check ppm.
I tablespoon molasses/liquid seaweed/ 1 gallon water
Thinking for a flush and pure saturate for 30% run off to check pph to see what these girls need? Blue dream fem photo ordered. And got a surprise with an auto. Picks will be below. Checked on them this morning and now all of them are flowering. Am I doing something wrong. I just topped 2 of the photos Tuesday before the watering. I’m so confused bc I haven’t switched schedule to 12/12. Why are my photos flowering. Pics up to progress. Corrective criticism is encouraged. I want quality over quantity. However want my tent full. Plan was to lst after topping the photos. Topping looks perfect. And then they decide to flower? But if they all happen to be autos did I just bruise those up. And should I skip the lst now. But why would they be autos? Ordered photos. 
first grow. I guess my research hasn’t paid off.
Pics early to now.
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Phatpat
Midwestguy
@PhatPat @MidwestGuy
Milkman needs some advice.
Only autoflowering plants will start producing buds on their own timeline without changing light schedule. Photoperiod plants require a 12/12 light schedule for this action to occur. As far as lst is concerned, you can continue to do so into the first couple to 3 weeks of flowering until your branches begin to harden up. Tying them down to the sides, keeping good light and airflow, will help for your training.
I have seen a couple other members on here complain of the same issue. Thinking they ordered photos but find later on that they received autos. May just be a mistake on their part and would contact customer service and let them know.
Do you have a pic of the seed packet?
Right. Been running 18/6 to keep them veg and start training. You guys definitely helped me out from the start. Just a little guidance has helped wonders and I appreciate you. I just didn’t know if they turn out to be autos should I skip the training. I’ve cropped 2. One is clearly in flower and the others are starting to show some fur. Just feel like I have a complete melting pot now in 1 tent lol. But just want quality. Should I switch lights? If the pack shows autos how do I save these girls. Change temps for autos. Change humidity also. I’m just going 50 directions now in my head.
No need to change away from 18/6. Everything else just go with the plan. Grows the same. One small variant to note that is different is DLI. Compare the graphs below…
Does the pack under your thumb end with FP20 or FAP20?
The receipt says FP20, but what you need to know is what they actually sent.
If the pack says FP20 then the seeds are not packaged right or somehow got autoflower genes. If the packet says FAP20, then they sent you autoflowers.
I think either way if you contact them with your issue they will send replacements.
Those are Autoflowers. They sent you the wrong seeds.
Have you contacted them yet?
I haven’t contacted them yet. I will though. I dropped the lights down this morning to reach 740 ppfd for flowering
Use the contact form, or you can find the order confirmation email and reply to that to let them know. Send the picture of the seed packet you just posted.
Its a bit dark but I could make out the letters.
They don’t work weekends so it will be Monday before they see it. Give them time and be nice and they will take care of you. I have never seen them not help unless the person was uncivil.
@ILGM.Support
@ILGM.Sharon
I will add that even though they started flowering while small, they could still grow quite a lot and give you a pretty good harvest.
Autos, even though kind of unpredictable at times, can produce very well and also give you strong results.
Right on. I emailed them but didn’t add the picture. I’ll just wait when I have a conversation with them. Nonsense to be rude. It’s a mistake. Shot happens. This is my first grow so I just thought this entire time I’ve been doing it allllllll wrong lol. So any tips from where I’m at now? Dropped the lights to get the ppfd to 740. So now they are flowering what are they supposed to look like. lol. How do I get them like you guys do lol. So I should skip the lst now correct? I got adjustable clips. Did t know if I can do some fan leaf training.
Since they are autos then don’t do any more topping. Just let them grow and as they get bigger maybe a gentle bit of tying down the branches to give good air flow.
We shall see.
You should hear something back on Monday. I tagged a couple employees who may see this thread. The forum is actually separate from the seed store, but a few look in here at times.
Thanks for tagging me. 
Oh no @Milkman ! You received autoflowers, I’m so so sorry about this. I can only imagine how frustrating this must feel for you, you already put in so much effort and energy. 
I will make sure our support team makes this right for you with priority. 
@ILGM.Sharon , You are the best!
Email with pictures sent to support team. Appreciate everyone’s help on this.
