Nope. Damaged leaves look like that. Dont pull it yet tho.
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These ladies are destined to look like a Charlie Brown Christmas tree under my care I’m afraid. LOL
Lol nah. They are a super resilient species. Im positive she will bounce back
There is always something to worry about, this is growing your own marijuana, lots at stake!!
Look at these leaves or some of them. I’ve had great results with plants/leaves that look terrible.
Take this one thing at a time and yes, you may lose a plant or two to disease or stoner mistakes, its all part of loving growing marijuana
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Yes you’re in a tight spot, your plants are hungry for nutes but they are water-logged. I don’t have great advice as if it were me, I would transplant them into new medium and start over hoping they make it but there is much risk and unless you have a relatively fool proof transplanting method or routine, it’s not advisable.
I do not think I said there was nothng to worry about. Mistakes happen. Your in serious recovery efforts here. You could try verry small amounts of water/nutes around the stems to feed them but…
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Thank you, I’ll try and resume “business as usual” nice and slow. That’s likely all I can really do now. Learned lots already, so it’s not all lost. They had a rough start, so it has compounded my problems.
A new medium mix is not impossible, but I feel more confident going slow and easy for now as opposed to doing all this transplanting business so early in my learning.
Next round I may only do one or two so that I don’t have to worry about raising 4 different children, even if 3 current ones are supposedly the same.
Everyone has been an excellent resource. Glad I stumbled onto this forum.
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Next round you’re not going to put them on the res until they are old enough to handle it.
No poking you or being critical but everything on the autopots website says they must be hand watered until the largest leaves are as wide as the pot. That means if you were growing in twenty gallon pots, it would be that much longer before the root structure made it down far enough into the medium to use the wicked up moisture.
Again, you’ve learned (as my dad would say, the hard way) but you will never do that again and therefore, you will never have plants stall and suffer like this again because of over watering.
Are we in coco? I’ve never had coco not drain right out. I apologize if I confuse you with another grower dealing with the same issue.
If your in coco/perlite, here is what I have done and urge you to do. Get the pots out of the autopot trays and if possible. position them in a 5 gallon pail with one corner of the pot pointing down in the pail. The pot will be tilted more than 45° and mine drain right out into the pail when I do this. Point is, we shouldn’t be waiting for time to drain them, if you can, tilt twirl or whatever you have to to get them to drain out.
If we are not in coco, I have no other suggestions.
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Yes, I am in strictly coco/perlite. 50/50. I will follow through with your suggestion immediately. I thank you.
So, I won’t get all the water back, but there is some coming out.
Any harm in leaving them like this overnight?
Since taking the picture, I’ve turned them inward so they’re all getting light. The light was lowered to match the previous height.
If I understand, the smaller ones will have to wait quite a few more days for any water/food. Even when they do get their next feeding, it’ll be top fed, around the perimeter of their canopy. Cal-Mag will be a must with their next feeding, assuming I have the product.
I’m starting to think that other than being a noobie, my main mistake was treating them like they are about 5 weeks older than they really are. Everything points to that, concentration of nutrients, amount and frequency of watering, amount of initial light. Not having cal-mag didn’t help I’m sure.
Thank you for being there @Screwauger, @raustin @Sixpackdad, @PurpNGold74, @peachfuzz, @tanlover442.
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No reason at all that they can’t stay like that overnight. Nice work there, just what I envisioned.
You would not believe the counseling and coaching I needed (just over a year ago) on my first grow. Impatience goes with the art. We want to see our girls in their full glory and “over-loving” them is more common than you think. Go easy on your self, this is nothing you can’t overcome and sad to say, it’s more heart breaking when they die from mold or other issues (mites) wrecking beautiful flowers you have nurtured. But gird yourself, it will happen.
This is good, I think primarily, they are all showeing signs of nute deficiency and we will get that corrected asap.
If you can, do some reading on overwatering coco. It’s almost impossible unless the plants are very young.
Also, not to be negative, there is no sure way to know we are treating the right issue. Sometimes batches of medium are just bad.
But we treat what appears to be the symptoms by group consensus and that’s all we can really do.
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Well now. I decided to measure the pH of each bucket runoff from letting them “hang” all night. pH was anywhere from 7.3 to 8.2 between all 4! PPM wasn’t horrible, but it did climb a bit.
@raustin and @Screwauger, will flushing with 5.8 water work to bring things down, or should I continue to let them dry out and start gently once they’re looking for water with 5.8?
If the Ph is that high I would try to bring it down now. I would water with 6.0 water to get it down to 6.8. You don’t want to go too low on the Ph because it could shock the plants.
Thank you @raustin, once it’s down to 6.8 let it dry out or bring it lower in a few days after the plant readjusts?
Yes, once you get down to 6.8 let them dry out really well. Then on the next watering or feeding you can go a little lower to 6.5.
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Its a 50/50 coco/perlite mix, should the goal be to get to 5.8 in the long run, stepping down slowly?
That’s what I’m reading into this as well.
I had checked the bag when purchased, and there was no indication of being anything else but coco. I had also done a slurry test as recommended by @raustin and it was 6.1 almost 3 weeks ago.
I’ll keep on trucking!
Oh, are you in coco? If so then you’ll want to get you Ph down when lower.
Honestly, I am not sure. I don’t measure such things in my grows so I am not one to chime in.
You might want to consider a support ticket type request. I might also encourage contact with or study on the autopots website. They have demos and “ask josh” is there support system where you can post pictures and ?? and get a reply.
I apologize I was not tagged in sooner.
Thank you for all you have done. I think I’ll go back to top feeds, fixing my issue that’s here right now as per @raustin, and treating them as “normal” grows in coco/perlite until I can restart the AP style of hydroponics once roots have grown enough.
If they survive great. If they don’t, it’ll be another learning experience. It’s a big deal, but not in the bigger picture really. I came into this with zero knowledge except for the 1000 hours I’d read and watched videos. It’s all good.
I might even try and transplant one into DWC, because I have nothing to lose but 1 seed that’s ill, and my time.
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Just my opinion, your being to hard on yourself, your plants don;t look that bad.
If anything it continues to be too much, too soon. Too many changes you will not know what helped.
Just my opinion, your results may vary.
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