Leaves drooping on top only

hi
My problem is that my leaves on top only, have been drooping for 2 weeks.
checked PH, PPM , both good. Moved lights 4 inches higher, still no change. Any ideas what is wrong? Strain is purple punch auto, 8 weeks. Giving jacks once a week.

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Jacks needs to be fed with every watering.

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Post some pics Growmie :love_you_gesture:

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Not the same strain, but I’ve grown the gorilla glue autos two different times, and both times the plant’s drooped during veg, but quit drooping when flowering started.

In most cases, droopy leaves means overwatering or the ph of your SOIL is off. Testing ph of nutrients and water isn’t enough… you need to do a soil slurry test for soil ph.

EDIT… we need more info. soil? watering schedule? watering method, nutrients, lights, temps, etc…

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For the slurry mix, what us a normal reading? Also what is the correct mixture of making the slurry, 2 parts soil 1 part run off ?

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Yeah. That’s the best way to be able to help.

Looks like clawing. I’m betting there’s a fan pointing directly at that plant or blasting it while it oscillates.

Or there’s some wicked N troubles but it’s not really that color.

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I have them both in 5 gallons grow bag, but roots was coming through one, so I added soil to another pot and placed the bag on top. I am using sohum. I was watering when needed, twice a week. I have two lights, vivosun 1000 in a 3x4 tent with 2 other plants showing no issues. I also do not have a fan, only an intake and outake exhaust fan. Just checked my ppm and it is off the roof with a reading of 3400. Should I do a flush?

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I wonder if your treating the living soil like potting soil with the wet to dry periods. Sohum living soil should be treated more like living soil then supersoil or bagged soil from what ive read. I have not and do not use sohum, but from what I’ve read is its supposed to be full of beneficial microbes and supposed to be a living soil more than a supersoil. I would give it less water but more often. Its important to keep living soil moist and not let it completely dry out to keep your microbes alive and thriving so they can do their job. I am think its possibly a watering issue

Its not necessary to measure tds with living soil, it will be high.

In my opinion, that would make matters worse.
@PurpNGold74 @Budbrother whats your thoughts?

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Thanks, I didn’t know there was a difference with watering. This is my third time around with soil and the first time with this experience.

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My guess is you may be watering too much.

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That might be the problem as I have noticed a huge amount of run off in my tent

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Im not big on flushing living soils neither J. Thats more of a last resort.

Reading back, im more inclined to think its N overabundance. The clawing stands out. But like mentioned above, that could be the fan pointed directly at it.

Id go with water only for a bit. Being living soil, u may not have fed anyway

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Leave her dry out for a while and see how she looks. Once the pot feels pretty light, give her some water, but not so much that tou get run off

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You dont want to let it dry completely like we do most soil setups. Its a very fine line, u want it almost to the point of dry dry, but microbes need to stay a bit moist, unless ur reinoculating with them

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Keep the rhizosphere moist by misting daily. This keeps the micro heard going while you let the bottoms dry up quite a bit. Not so much that the moisture becomes too low and the leaves droop down fully.

I let my bottoms substantially dry up every two weeks, so the roots don’t get rot. A gradual wet/dry cycle. I do my top dress on a dry cycle, followed by an enzyme rich water, to help facilitate breakdown of amendments.

The important thing it to always keep the rhizosphere moist at all times. That’s where the overwhelming, abundance of life exists. If it get too dry, the pH swings from the deaths of micro heard. This defeats the living part of living soil.

You should never have runoff in living soil.

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You have VPD issues going on. I circled some examples in white. The red shows some potassium starting. This leads me to an overwatering issue and unhappy root system.

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So I should just let the water dry out some, as I just overwatered yesterday morning. One gallon in a 5 gallon pot, need to reduce it I see.

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Yes, dry ish as described above.
Then…
You’re basically looking at 5% water for pot volume. 5 gal pots would be watered around a pint, often as needed.

Once transition, you’re around 10%, to meet the increasing demand of adolescent phase.

Around week 5 flowering, fruiting phase, you’ll see a gradual reduction in water demands back to the 5% range.

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