L STRESS T issues

This is making me crazy! I seem to be all over the place with what I am being told is an overwatering issue. That being said, I took advised measures to correct the problem.
Drooping leaves suggested that I was applying too much water. I had watered on the 24th giving about 24oz with the visual result being sagging leaves.
Yesterday the girl was looking worse. Lifting the pot revealed it being very light, and the soil a few inches deep was dry. Trying to guard against overwatering again I gave her 12oz yesterday afternoon because she just looked starved.
This morning upon rising (lights are on throughout the night. Lights off for 4hrs during daytime) she looked much improved. I was hopeful.
However, just before lights out began today i checked in and discovered her appearing in poor form yet again. The only change in that time duration was a slight increase in humidity to 60% from 45-50%. The time span between watering and preparing for lights out today was about 18hrs.
Here are pics from this morning and just before lights out. The soil on surface appears dry again.
I am using a P4P kit and watering to run off was not advised. They suggested lighter watering more frequently instead.
Am I not watering enough now?
I’m a bit befuddled…
any observations and feedback deeply needed and appreciated. I seem to be stuck on high center with this.
Thanks in advance! :peace_symbol:

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This doesn’t look like underwatered that’s for sure. If you’re worried about over watering give it a few days of no water and let the top few inches really get bone dry. You’ll know if you’re underwatered. Your plant won’t look like droopy leaves like that it will look like someone let all the air out of a balloon. It will perk right up too when you water so let it really dry out if you really think you have an overwatering issue.

Since you are P4P im not gonna question the medium or whatevs but think about your water. Are you on municipal water? If so Are you letting your water sit to get the chlorine out?
What’s your water ph? TDS?

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Thanks for your response. Yes, Muni water. I collect it and allow at least 48 hrs open to dissipate chlorine. To date I have not taken a ppm reading when watering, however ph is always in 6.5 range.

I think you should consider posting about this in your grow journal thread - you’re getting lots of good advice there so far.

or tag some of the folks from there in this thread using the @ and their forum handle.

I didn’t realize I had a grow journal. Sorry, I’m still trying to figure this forum out :man_shrugging:t3:

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Are u in coco? And is that an auto cuz sometimes preflower strech makes plants extra tirsty and coco is inert and drys out quick … The amount u are watering shouldnt matter its the how often will tho… Sry if u have a journal tag my name in it so i can get more info

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If u are in coco and u havent watered since the 24th thats t days thst plant is underwatered looks like a underwater droop give a lil splash of water and see if she perks up it willl happen in about an hour or 2 maybe 3 if she perks up you got your anwser im talking like a solo cup just to do a test

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So what I’m hearing is you’ve exhausted your watering options. Too much, too little, ph, etc.

I know autos you can do whatever light schedule bla bla. I had a wedding cheesecake auto that looked droopy, dry, leaves felt weird, for like two weeks. Couldn’t figure it out. I threw it in the flower tent. On a 1212 schedule and the light was a lot farther away. She perked up and looked great in like two -three days. Thinking back I think yours has the same kind of look. Let me see if I can dig up a picture or two.

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I’m using Pot4Pot “superb” soil. It has coco in it - top soil. Frankly, the topsoil always feels dry to the touch which led to my initial string of overwatering.
P4P support suggests not watering to runoff. Rather, lighter watering every few days as needed.

I have 2 plants. The one that is struggling the most seems to be a week or so ahead of the other, which seems to be coming along in better form.
Again referring to P4P support, they suggest longer periods of light for autos. I have heard accounts from both sides of this debate and because my 2nd plant has not shown as much signs of flowering as her counterpart i have elected to stay with 18/6.
I have my light at about 16” and there is no apparent issue with heat.
I have been reluctant to start changing other factors until I get this problem figured out. I don’t believe it is a light issue. And the girls are getting enough time in the dark to rest.
I would be interested in seeing pics of you find them. And thank you for your input and advice. I appreciate you! :peace_symbol:

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@Covertgrower @Hellraiser @kaptain3d @AutoMattik @ni @Not2SureYet @RAP. Can anyo e help this fella out here. Im no good for picking up deficiencies. I think u will be covered here now buddy. Good luck. Almost looms like mine having a ph problem but i could b wrong. What kind off ph meter do u use

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My pleasure. Does seem like a shot in the dark but I had three autos going at the time under 20-4 lighting. Two took it fine. One perpetually droopy. Some plants are more sensitive than others. I forget are you using led lighting? It’s less about heat stress with leds so much as just stress from the amount of light itself. Not trying to persuade you here. Buy if you don’t figure it out give it a shot. You could just remove that one to somewhere dark and not change the light situation for the other plant. Just a thought.

Edit : can’t find the pictures but I talked about it and documented it in my grow journal…somewhere early September.

Plants have a memory, they can remember when lights are about to. Turn on/off this can cause droop as well.

Do a soil slurry sample. Get a PH and a tds for us. As well as what your water tds is.

What light and what light scedule/ distance?
Although inaccure measures and much prefer DLI.
Would suggest a 20/4 for autos at the max

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Thanks for your assistance! :peace_symbol:

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Did u recal it when i got it

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I have the same one. Didnt recal it when i got it. Did a whole grow and a half and half way thru this i think it went off cal. I had to recal it and so far seems good. They should have sent u 3 pks in the kit to recal it

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Yes. I calibrated it when I began with germination. And I have calibrated a second time about 2 weeks ago. I am using municipal water that is drawn and left open for a min of 48 hrs before using. Ph @6.5

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Ok any nutes yet.

No. P4P support suggests their soil doesn’t need and additional nutes. I’ve heard mixed opinions about this as well. I chose the P4P route thinking it would be a part of least resistance for me as someone who has never attempted to grow anything. That being the case I have tried to follow their instructions and advice from the onset. I’m also heeding the advice & suggestions of the posts you and others are offering to assist me. I’m trying to balance it all

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Heck with the pot size and size of plants they might b hungry for some food. Im sure @Nicky or @AutoMattik @kaptain3d can lend in a good solid hand. They do some great grows

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