I’m gonna look into better nutes assp, and a better light when I have the funds… it’s tough being on a budget. And really tough when im pretty sure these babies won’t make it. I don’t know what the problem is or how to fix them, but I guess that is the process.
Thank you for your input, I really appreciate it.
Unfortunately I don’t see these girls bouncing back. They are significantly stunted and have showed no new growth in the past 3 days. The leaves are all slowly being taken over my a pale white color and are becoming brittle.
It’s not taking water, nutrients and the PH continues to skyrocket.
And everyday it becomes worse, cause I do not know the issue.
Thank you to everyone who has tried to help me and or save these guys, but I just don’t think I have the smarts on how to fix this…
Patience is the answer. You just changed the reservoir yesterday. Simply let the ph drift and once it’s back up over 6.3-6.5, PH it back down to 5.8. Keep on that routine. If the plants were done trying, they’d stop drifting the PH.
My very first auto was a whopping 12” tall after all was said and done. My second grow around, my auto is taking up about a 2x2 square and shows no signs of mercy.
It’s my personal opinion but you need to see this through until the plant quits on you. You’ll be surprised how resilient they are, and sure, it won’t be the most impressive yield but if you abandon ship now, you won’t learn what went wrong and are very likely to repeat the same mistake again and again. It will likely result in total surrender. Which is a terrible shame, growing is such a fun hobby. Search out a thread called “5th time fail in coco” or something like that. Good example of a repeated mistake that didn’t end well.
I really appreciate the forward ness of seeing it through. And I for sure am. Not removing or shutting down anything until they’re brown and dead. It’s just so deflating. And it’s a lot of me (just having a hard head) and not realizing I’m not going to be “great” at anything first try.
I’m not as totally focused on how big the yield will be cause I always thought “well let’s see if I can even grow the plant first” to which I’m having terrible trouble with.
Just going through my log and day to day, it’s hard to even figure out what I had done wrong. And how to know I won’t do it again with the remaining seeds I have.
Honestly, you’re probably just being impatient. The damaged leaves on your plant from the CalMag deficiency aren’t going to heal or get better. Now that you have them fed and properly PH’d with nutes and more CalMag, all you can do is wait. Be paying close attention to new growth that sprouts from the top of the plant, and not to the roots or the lower leaves. If new growth is emerging healthy, you’re on the right track.
For what it’s worth, I never dump out my reservoir water anymore, I largely only top it off unless there’s something seriously wrong (brown goo or slime to indicate major bad nasties infiltrated the res) because in hydro, your plants have to work even harder to develop the good microbes that help them with nutrient intake than they do in soil. By dumping out a perfectly healthy reservoir, you’re effectively resetting all that work and symbiotic relationship building. It’s been nearly three months now I think since my last full res change, and that’s for stuff in DWC with no chiller and RDWC with a water pump and water chiller.
If you don’t already have it, I highly recommend Hydroguard. It has the good microbes and isn’t insanely expensive.
I’m gonna give it some time and see if it bounces back.
I have nutes in the res, it’s PHd with a dose of Calmag.
Between the last three days it hasn’t seen any growth, only sort of deterioration which is sending me into my spiral. But I will keep on until they turn brown and dead. I’ll Keep adjusting PH, making sure temps are good, etc.
…and just cross my fingers and hope it works lol
I think you mentioned it earlier but what’s the PPM’s on your res? (And the natural PPMs of the water you’re using) Just curious mostly.
It’ll all work out as long as you don’t surrender. 
I can promise I was in your same shoes in July/August, it has been a weird journey but the stage you’re at now is easily the most charged - so much is new but it will become routine. As far as the growth, just give it time. Your plants may be undecided about where to focus their energies after the nute/PH lock out, it will be a few days yet before they’re comfortable that they have the nutrients available to do both.
Did sledgehammer ever touch the roots?
Natural it’s about
EC. 270
PPMs 140
Right now with nutes and cal mag added
EC: 550
PPms around 300
As of right now PH is stable i just adjusted this morning
Yes I used it before my res change
Huh. That’s curiously low. Since you would take what you’re feeding
300 PPMs
Subtract out 140ppms (naturally occurring in your water)
You’re left with 160ppms in your hydro solution. Even for fox farms nutes that’s pretty heavily diluted.
Okay - walk me through what you add to the res, in what amounts, and how many gallons of water you’re using total (13 I think I saw but I’m just shooting from the hip a little).
Somehow starting to feel like I overlooked it but they might just be plain ol’ starving. 
So yesterday I cleaned /flipped res.
Added the 13 gal back to the res, PHd, and let it cycle to see if the PH stayed stable whilst I was changing, it did.
Added about an 1/8 cup of Big Bloom to the res (that’s about 1/4 strength) and 2 TBS of Cal mag to the mix.
I did not want to spike the EC from 300 to 900 as I thought it would be damaging. But should I ? I can bring the ec up to the “recommended” Amount from the chart I’m going off of. And it’ll be about a 1/4 cup today added to the res if I bump it up.
Last question before I weigh in either way - how old are these girls?
A little under 4 weeks
Okay. Here’s my chart and here is my reasoning, and please feel free to take this as cautiously as you’d like. I am a reckless grower and will be forthright about that every time.
Fox Farms feed schedule, adjusted to the 500ppms TDS scale that most of us use on the forum (simply ease of communication, I don’t know that any scale is better than another).
Big Bloom has essentially nothing in it. That explains why your PPMs are so low. I was mistakenly thinking of Grow Big when you mentioned it earlier.
If it were me, I’d be adding approx 1/4 cup of Grow Big to my reservoir. That will shake out to slightly stronger than 1/4 strength based on their feed schedule for 13 gallons of water at Week 4. You’ll likely need to adjust the ph (again - I’m sorry!) after that addition since it’s kind of acidic stuff.
Fox Farms suggests Big Bloom, Grow Big, and a heap of other supplemental junk all at Week 4. The Grow Big is where all the “good stuff” is, along with the CalMag you’re adding in already. Specifically the nitrogen your plant cells need to grow.
First off , I really appreciate all the help and input, thank you again for it!
So I’m going to , add grow big to my Rez, until I hit around 1100 PPMs, PH it, then have some patience and see if it bounces back?
Should the PPM and EC read about the same?
Don’t worry about that part - I’d just start by adding the 1/4 cup of Grow Big and see where the PPMs are sitting from there. Since we are looking for 1/4 strength, your real PPMs will probably be closer to 400-600 (ish) after you subtract out the ppms in your water.
Added in, and PPMs sitting around 600 , minus WhAts already in my water they’d be around
460 PPM
That sounds about right for a quarter strength. I assumed the CalMag would have scooted that a little higher but I’ve never used that particular brand.
I think we’re on the right track. Again, I’m sorry I hadn’t noticed the under-feeding earlier. If they seem to be perking up, bumping it up in a few days should be fine.
Like I said, I appreciate the input no matter what!
Hopefully we are on the right track, and I’ll continue to monitor it over the next few days! I will for sure provide updates on its life and try an focus a little more on the newer growth, if it kicks back into action, rather than focus on the lost growth!
