Jack's vs Chemgro, Nicky's Experiment

Thanks for the holler Nicky!
I’m going to be like the fly on the wall on this one. But I plan to try some of this stuff (Jacks in particular) so you definitely have my attention my friend. Set to watching.
:pray: :v: :cowboy_hat_face:

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I’m jumping in as well. Just bagged my first grow with Jack’s and a week and a half into cure this grow has the best look and smell I’ve done yet

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This is great! Can’t wait to see how the experiment goes. Definitely going to be following along! Thanks for the tag bud!

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Can you explain this please?
I loved my chemgro it’s been solid.

@Hellraiser @imSICKkid should I be feeding full strength, as you can see the plants just broke ground generally we think of plant life stages and ppm’s as


But that’s very generalized because even chemgro doesn’t follow that guide.
Also I Geuss I’ll look at Jack’s feed chart

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I’m watching bro. :v::grin:

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@Nicky the chart you gave me is pretty much equal parts Chemgro, calcium nitrite, and Epsom salt. I’m growing in dirt (well composted manure mainly) not hydro. I’m not sure if hydro requires more cal/mag but as I understand it those are mainly needed at the start of flower.

I don’t remember the exact numbers in your chart, but I converted it to 8 gm each part for my 2 gallon watering cans.

Since not as much cal/mag is needed late in flower, if I just reduce those parts, the ppm drops in the watering can. So I bump up the Chemgro to compensate.

I honestly don’t have a set schedule yet, but I’m in week 6 of flower and I’m at 10,7,7 and plan to go to 12,6,6 in another week or 2. I went up to 12,6,6 with my last batch.

Maybe I should run an experiment of my own with the straight schedule and the modified.

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I grew as per scedule in soil prior to coco.
Calcium, magnesium, sulfur and suprizingly nitrogen is actually needed in flower. Studies have shown nitrogen helps reduce intermodal space in flower.
Soil maintains lots of things though so it is differnt.

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I expand the coco bricks with full strength Jacks and then just give RO water for first few waterings as I feel there is plenty of nutes in the coco at that point, then it’s full strength Jacks every watering thereafter.

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Thanks for the tag @Nicky

Only able to scan this but will read in depth tonight!

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Not really a controlled experiment if your not using clones from the same plant. And I have seen countless magnesium and calcium deficiencies or issues with people not using the Jack’s full strength.

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Leggy and yellow, you feed these things? :wink:

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Looking forward to seeing the results.

I was using Roots Organic for nutes but it doesn’t mix well. For this grow I’m using GH as @Not2SureYet has had some great results. I want something that mixes well because I often have to leave for 2 weeks at a time and premix and set with an auto watering system (soil, not coco). I’m also hoping to compare the GH to Jacks and FF.

I’m watching!!

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Set to watching, this is great!

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@imSICKkid come on sick…
I explained that in the post, even if it was clones its to small scale to be statistically significant but gotta start somewhere.
Without a truely lab controlled environment or a large Commerical scale clone test its not a study but that is why I called it an experiment.
My environmental conditions and my strain choices are going to be different from others.

I really don’t like running photos because I don’t have the ability to always be home in time for the flip, I don’t have space for mothers, I cant run a SOG which and my grow room is not a sealed space and my tents arnt perfly light proof amongst other reasons like I see little reason to run multiple of the same plant unless thst bud somehow blows me away which I have yet to have any strain do that for me.

Anyways your input would be appreciated along the way including your view on feeding Jack’s in early stages.

@PharmerBob had light to heart GH at first then brought it down to control stretch and that gave a bit of light burn, I’m feeding them. Just trying to hold those ones off while these other ones catch up. It’s full speed ahead from here on out.
Again rough start but I’m back ilat it finally lol

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Seriously just messing with you, I’m definitely gonna have to actually read this, but atm I’ve smoked myself illiterate

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Both plants will be in the same conditions, whether it’s in a lab or in your bedroom. At the end of the day the environment is the same for them. But to compare nutrients it has to be the same plant in order to see any kind of difference. Otherwise you have one dense pheno and one airy pheno…and the airy pheno would make you draw the conclusion that the nutrients you used on the plants is inferior to the other nutrient line. That’s all I’m saying, not knocking your test…just trying to level the playing field in as many aspects as you can.

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And as far as Jack’s feeding goes. The only advice I have is full strength from seed to harvest…every feeding.

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I agree I see s 10 pack of seeds many times on here same strain same bank… 3 to 5 different phenos and 1 if any are desierablr… so I would agree I would take the extra month and a half grow your wanted strains … take 5 clones of each to make atleast 3 so you can run 3 separate strain tests sinultsneously… you have 2 tents… the mothers flower out in tent a while your vegging your clones in other tent…9 clones put em all in 1 to 2 gallon pots everything the same 1 control 1 Jack’s 1 chem… thswill make al efforts oh so much more valid and worth it…since you like science and statistics and all… take a month and a half for the team… FOR SCIENCE!!

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I burnt so I forgot already how and why your limited on space on something but @fano_man and @imSICKkid are kinda right… I would also work with clones of the same moms…just will take a couple of weeks to set yourself up… Ill still be here!!
Lol…but its your experiment and I’ll watch either way!
Goodluck!

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Set to watching what ever you decide. Same Clones more valid i agree from the side line :wink:

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