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They look great. Drop happens, be it lights or water.
You know what your doing so just keep doing it until something gets chronic

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I upped the intensity of the lights as well. My node spacing is whack and i need to get that under control now.

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But you know what toook for and you know how to fix it!
So your learning and that’s fricking Awsome.

I know a ton but my garden looks like junk sometimes cuz I’m just not home enough lol. Should be home for the next full veg for my 3 new ones I drop Friday though!

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@Jackie_Daytona Happy Thanksgiving!

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same to you growmie!

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watering day. 5 days since last feed.
plants looked like they needed water even though pots had some weight. Still dialing in the promix/watering needs.

all plants got jacks 3-2-1 full strength. right at 1.8=2 ec or between 950-1000 ppms. in 30ppm ro water. they also got silica blast at about 3-4ml per gallon as well as Recharge at a tsp? watered to 20-25% runoff. took about 2 gallons in 7 gallon pots to get that.

runoff numbers
5.8-6.ph and 1050-1250 ppm runoff.
that being said i had two plants that runoff was high. I knew it would be high because there was water and a buildup in the tray from last watering. I knew just by looking at those two trays the numbers would be wonky. and sure enough 1 came out at 1350 and 1550 for the really dirty tray and the ph was a touch lower. the plants look just as good as the others with no issues so my conclusion is the tray neglect caused these high numbers.

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here they are today 3 days after lst and 47 days since breaking ground.
the 3 broken branches seem to be on the mend. I will however have to wait to bend the tallest with two broken straight up. :rofl:



I took and washed all the pot elevators and trays out now that the plants have finished dripping and i have time for it. Clean trays are important for me be because the next reading is going to be as accurate as a run off test can be without contamination and I don’t have stagnant water sitting around. We don’t like stagnant watering sitting around because it is a breeding ground for molds and attracts pests such as fungus gnats.

im not seeing anything concerning in the runoff . I did have high numbers on two but that i am sure was from old water drying in the bottom of the trays and leaving salts behind.

The pants seem to really be liking the jacks/silica/recharge/tribus setup.

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Plants look great and I agree with the rinsing of the trays prior to run off read I did the same thing pre autopot.

What’s your feed amount?
Intrested to know how much you feed of each and what your water ppm is before/after mixing it all up

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from above.

I had two high ppm runoffs but i am willing to bet when i water next and collect from these shiny clean trays the numbers go down.
]have you started a journal on your new grow yet?

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another round of lst today and plucked just a few leaves that were in the dirt, not getting any light or were blocking a lot of light to other key places compared to its energy absorption if i couldn’t tuck it and still have it useful. anyway .I just carefully bent the main branches down a little more to open them up in the middle so that light can get in there.

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Nice healthy green color, love to see it!

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@Hellraiser thank you. I am really liking the jacks. It’s simple to use and seems to be getting the job done. I am not seeing any of the issues i had on my first grow.
lights are at about 150W @24"

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Yeah was thinking your plants look much better this time around with Jacks. I just started another journal with my Zkittlez grow in coco and Jacks.

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great. ill get over there and sub. thank you,.

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A a couple days after feeding. I have had really good vpd going on. 74f/70rh in the auto seedling tent and 75F/69 in the 4x8. with a 77/65 average. They seem to like the added Rh.
I have good air flow going and have put 5 9" fans into the 4x8/ all on low. Three on top keeping the leaves moving/twitching and air moving through the branches and two down low keeping air moving and circulating in the intake air. I have a few more i can put in when needed.

They just seem so healthy its amazing. I am wondering what boosts to give if any aside from jacks/recharge/tribus/silica

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Looks awesome!

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thank you. !

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That’s really all you need in veg. Might get some fulvic acid powder for flowering, seems popular with Jacks users.

Plants looking great!

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thank you sir. ill pick up that fulvic.

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watering day. Didnt get a runoff last time. ( i know, i know)

This time all plants got Ro water about 30ppm. -silica 2.5ml/gallon, jacks 3-2-1 @950-1000ppm or 1.8-2 ec
Recharge…a couple pinches maybe a gram a gallon?,
I have not not ph’d the water last couple feeds. it’s coming in around 6.3 with no ph up or down after nutes and recharge/tribus/silica.
Now if I need to add some ph down to get to lower with my feed water I will if suggested. But seems ok now. It’s funny as I used so much ph up with the fox farms lineup. Im talking 6-9 ml a gallon and now i don’t need any. (looking at full gallon of ph up)

run off numbers. Now I had a few plants that had a little higher runoff than i would like 1300ppm. I gave all plants maybe an extra gallon (3) and got a reall good amount of run off this time around. that extra gallon in each plant brought them all to about 1000-1100 ppm and 6.1-6.3 ph

I had one plant that showed just a few hints of what may been magnesium or cal issues. that was one of the plants with the higher runoff. It got the extra gallon and that brought it down to abut 1000ppm runoff and got half a gram more of cal nitrate and a pinch extra Epsom salts.
Right thing to do? not sure but thats what i’m going with.

plant’s got a strategic defoliation 3 days ago and you cant even tell today. I went in and cleaned up interior leaves and anything down low restricting air flow and just a few larger leaves that were cover bud sites that i need to get light. Also removed sucker branches and branches that just aren’t going to make the cut. Well except for the ones that always get left that you are rooting for that don’t make it. Anyway, They are growing incredibly well so far.

I’m thinking about the net. It so convenient to be able to take the plants out of the tent still. I know that having the net will give me a better canopy I am just kind of dreading it. Not being able to get in there really well and move things if need be. I am glad I got some lst training in when i did as the silica has the branches hard a steel.

thats about it for this grow.
more going on over at my auto grow over here

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