Can you recommend a plant food that is suitable for both veg and flowering?

I would like a plant food that can be used both in veg and flowering stages. I’ve found way too much info about it online, and it seems everyone has their own opinions.

I’m just looking for something that will be enough to benefit the plant and not risk hurting it. I’m looking for something organic and CHEAP.

What ratio will be safe for the plant in all life stages?

Does anyone have a specific brand, if so could you post a link of it?

I use happy frog soil, and don’t think I need to add any nutes for the first month of the plants life.

Thank you.

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From what I’ve read, a lot of folks use Jacks from start to finish.

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Jacks isn’t organic.

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Might be able to help if they aren’t busy

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Ive been us8ng gaia green but for an all around id say try real growers grow dots theyre organic and to my knowledge are for full cycle. I havent used them myself yet, but i do use real growers recharge and man am i happy with the results so far

Plants need different ratios a different stages. A blanket food would be 4-4-4. If wanting cheap. Get fish emulsion for N input. Build a Bloom for flower but this depends on the route you wanna go. Water soluble uptake or premix amendments. Input in direction is needed. I got you on cheap.

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Nectar for The Gods - 1 Shot, top dress in the beginning and top dress with bloom nutes in flower.

I use Coast of Maine Stonington blend Veg for veg and then their buds n bloom for flower. If youre only growing 2 plants at a time then those 2 bags should last you 5 or so grows. I have 10 in flower now and ill go through about half a bag or so of each.

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Jack’s isn’t organic but it is relatively inexpensive and easy,and can use just the three “ingredients” start to finish. I’m more than satisfied with the results!

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If I mix the plant food at half strength will it reduce the nutrient ratio by half?

For example if I got 8-8-8 fertilizer, and the instructions say mix 2 tablespoons for 1 gallon, would mixing only 1 tablespoon to 1 gallon make a 4-4-4?

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So I am new to growing. I am using fox farm grow big, calmag, I have 3 plants on day like 50. I’m adding 4 autos to it today if germinated. And will flip my lights when the autos are ready. My question is with the micro and macro nutrients where do I get them? I feel like my one plant is showing signs of manganese def. How do I add just that without burning with others? They are in soil in fabric pots. I was feeding alternately with watering. But this week I started feeding every water. I have a lot of drain off so idk if I’m like washing the nutrients out? Any input would be helpful


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With soil, you dont want alot of runoff if using organic nutes. Only time you want runoff is when using salt based nutes. As far as replinishing the micro nutes and microbes, worm castings work great. You can either top dress or make a tea like i do. Also you want to add a tablespoon of blackstrap organic molasses to your water once a week to feed the microbes.

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Yes. Using half strength fertilizer works but if the plants are getting lots of light and growing rapidly, you might have to fertilize more often or increase the dose rate to full strength to compensate. If the plant is growing slowly or isn’t under bright light, then a lower dose rate (1/2 strength) will be fine and you shouldn’t see any deficiencies.

Epsom Salts is magnesium sulfate and and will fix magnesium deficiencies. You can buy a 1kg box from any supermarket, most hardware stores, or even health food shops for a couple of dollars. Supermarkets are generally the cheapest and work fine. Just make sure it doesn’t have perfumes added to it.

You need to add Epsom Salts to hot tap water and stir it up to get it to dissolve, then add that to a watering can with cold tap water and water it on the plants once or twice a week until the problem is fixed.

I use about 1/3 of a level teaspoon of Epsom Salts in a 9 liter (bit over 2 gallon) watering can each time I fertilize the plants. I use the same dose for calcium chloride and add them together. You can use a higher dose rate (1 level teaspoon per 9 liters of water) but the more you use the more it raises the pH of the water. If the pH goes too high the plants won’t be able to use the magnesium or calcium so just add a little bit regularly rather than a lot occasionally. I can water 2 x 30cm pots with the 9 liters of water.


If the plant has a calcium deficiency you can add lime (calcium carbonate) and sprinkle it over the surface of the soil and then water it in. You can also use calcium chloride (available from hardware stores or places that sell swimming pool salt to some water and water it on the soil.

Calcium chloride dissolves easily in cold or warm tap water. Lime doesn’t dissolve easily in water and is more of a slow release calcium additive. I prefer calcium chloride mixed with water because you see quicker results.


Nitrogen comes from poop and pee. You can pee on the soil under the plant a couple of times a week or dilute your urine (water it down) and use it more regularly. If you get a pelletized chicken manure, sheep poop or cow poop you can put that on the soil for nitrogen.

Don’t use raw/ fresh manure, especially not fresh chicken poop because it burns the roots. Any manure should be composted for at least 3 months before use and 6 months is better and safer.

Horse poop is usually full of undigested weed seeds and has to be composted for months before using it to stop the seeds popping up in the soil under your plants. You can just pull the weeds out or use vinegar to kill them.

If you need a safe herbicide to kill weeks, use 2 liters (1/2 gallon) of white vinegar and 2 tablespoons of liquid soap. Mix them up and spray on the weeds. The vinegar is acidic and burns the plants. The soap helps the vinegar stick the plant leaves. You can also spray straight vinegar on the weeds without using soap.

Use vinegar on dry days so it doesn’t get washed off. It works well in hot dry conditions when the weeds are already stressed from heat and dry conditions.

Any kind of bird droppings should cook for at least a year before using…livestock as mentioned above for at 6 months.

There are many ways to do this. How confident are you? Jacks makes it easy. It already has calcium in it. 2 parts A to 1 part B and see what you get. Many ways to do this

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When I first began growing in the early 2000’s I used Peter’s Brand fertilizer. It’s not organic but it was 5-50-17 and I used that throughout my plants entire lifecycle. Just mixed different amounts for whatever stage they’re in. As a matter of fact perhaps I’ll get myself a bag of 5-50-17 and see if I can replicate my results from back then. :+1:t2::+1:t2:

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Jacks and Epson salt

I use Jacks all the way through with added silica.

What about Hydroponic General Flora Series. GRO, MICRO+BLOOM. Anyone else use this? Im a beginner. Well, its been years, letsput it that way. It was beautiful sens back in the early 80’s.Believe it or not we did an experiment with rose food with 2 plants. One with rose food, one without. The difference was amazing. The main trunk was huge.

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Down to earth, dr earth, gaia green, fox farms. All of these company’s sell there form of organic amendments. There all relatively cheap. But i believe all of the mixed blends, can use some addition single type amendments added per stage.