Aeromatics' Autopots - ILGM Zkittlez Auto x 2 in Coco 3.9 Gallon with Stash Trio

Two Zkittlez Auto by ILGM I have Week 4 here before my “Goals for the Grow”, and then “Germination” and weeks 1 - 3 below. Things are going well thus far and it’s my best 3.9 gallon Autopot start!

Day 27 Side by Side (Before Training, Autopots woo!)

Zkittles # 2 (Day 27)

Zkittlez #2 (Day 26)

Zkittlez #1 (Day 27)

Zkittlez #1 (Day 26)

This week we had explosive growth due to the beautiful nutrients within the autopot reservoir, the great root system we spent the first three weeks building up, and the LST we’ve been working on over the last two weeks.

I’ve spent the last few days adjusting that training daily, working to spread that training out during this crucial stretch period in order to maximize light exposure to each plant’s canopy. I am less focused on height right now, and more focused on getting that even canopy going right now.

The only adjustments I have made to my week three reservoir recipe is adjusting the ph daily, ensuring it remains as close to 5.7 as possible.

Mammoth P Microbes drives PH up a bit more rapidly than normal, so daily monitoring is fairly crucial when using it. However the benefits are way worth it!

I see some pre-flower signs (early pistils and small buds forming), primarily on Zkittlez #1, but I think we still have some solid stretch time going before we get into an early flower period.

Heading towards day 30, I am focused on patience, minimal stretch stress, and focused PH balance!


General Setup:

Seeds: Zkittlez Auto from ILGM

Grow Medium: Coco and Perlite 80/20

Nutrients:
Root Boosters and Blends: Mammoth P Active Microbials, Xtreme Gardening Mykos

Main Nutrient System: Ventana Plant Science Complete Nutrient Line Kit, Stash Trio (Base, Blend, and Bloom

Grow Environment:
Light: AC Infinity IONBOARD S44 – LED Grow Light Board 400W
Tent: AC Infinity CLOUDLAB 642, Advance Grow Tent 4 x 2
Humidifier: AC infinity CLOUDFORGE T3
Ventilation and Circulation: AC Infinity CLOUDLINE T-Series Duct Fan 4 Inch, AC Infinity Duct Carbon Filter, Australian Charcoal, 4-Inch, AC Infinity CLOUDRAY A6, Gen 2 Grow Tent Clip Fan 6”

Autopot System:

Autopot XL x 2

Autopot Geopot 3.9 Gallon Pots

Autopot 12 Gallon Reservoir

HITOP 10 W320 GPH Pump (Airdomes)

HITOP 3 W 80 GPH Pump (Mix Reservoir)


Week 3 (Day 14 to 21)

Day 21 is the earliest that I have turned on my autopots since I converted to a full autopot system, and every aspect of my preparation has steered me towards developing a root systems that grew to build an environment that could tolerate an early activation of both airdome and autopot early activation. I am happy to say I think we succeeded here!

Side by Side

Zkittles #1

Zkittles #2

I gave her two waters this week in preparation. One on day 16 (600 ml) and one on day 18 (800 ml). Each water was delivered at the very outside of the pots to encourage max root exploration of the pots.

I also slowly increased the strength of my airdome pump heading into day 21 to give them some extra oxygen, they responded well to that and showed some perky growth.

The morning of day 21, I mixed 10 gallons of RO water with the following recipe:

10 Gallons Water

50 ml Ventana Plant Science Support

26 ml Ventana Plant Science Grow

15 ml Ventana Plant Science Expand

7.5 ml Ventana Plant Science Structure

11 g Ventana Plant Science Stash Base

5 ml Mammoth P Active Microbial

ec 1.05

ph 5.7

I loaded up my reservoir, plugged in my air pump and water stone to keep her aerated, and opened up my aquavalves.

I also adjusted my Ionboard S44 to level 9, giving out about 350 PPFD, but I will be looking to max that out to level 10 by day 24. They are almost ready to push to the max!


Goals for the Grow:

Beat my 3.9 Personal Record = 99 g Northern Lights CBD from Royal Queen Seeds!

I would love to beat 99 g per plant for each of these.

During my last autopot run, I made two germination into potting mistakes.

  1. The buffered coco was way too wet when potting. This stifled root growth initially, and also prevented me from adding any water and generally slowed down the entire process. I could tell because when I pulled the coco out from the pots, there was a strong taproot but little to no root growth in the middle to upper root zone.
  2. I packed the coco a bit too much when adding to my pots. I didn’t superpack it tight, but I did pat it down a little but it layers, and I think that inhibited root growth as well.

So my solution, or at least hypothesis to try and solve against these observed mistakes is to:

  1. I let the buffered coco dry and a few extra days in the bin, and I also laid it out on a tard to let it air dry for around 48 hours before potting up. It was still dark and moist, but when I squeezed a handful of it, only a drop or 2 rang out, as opposed to a fountain like my previous run. It looked much better!
  2. I tossed the coco into the pot with my two hands and used the back of my hands to simply even out the layers as opposed to compressing them throughout the potting process. This will allow the coco to naturally settle over time, and hopefully allow for proper aeration and root development!

Coco Buffering

I am trying a new buffering mix for this run! Stash recently released 2 new products to go along with their fantastic Stash Blend nutrient enhancement: Stash Base (Veg Nutrients) and Stash Bloom (Flower Nutrients). I am excited to add Stash Base into my buffering mix, it will hopefully create a beautiful growing environment for my gals.

I buffered twice (both for 24 hours). I had 12 gallons of coco and I used 10 gallons of RO water to buffer:

For my first buffer, I went with around 1 ec charge and a ph of 5.75 for each 10 gallons.

My nutrients included:

70 ml Ventana Plant Science Support

5 grams Stash Base - New Product! (Formulated with a diverse blend of organic and mineral inputs—including calcium phosphate, biochar, crustacean meal, feather meal, fishbone meal, glacial and volcanic rock dusts, alfalfa, insect frass, giant kelp meal, neem seed kernel meal, oyster shell dust, sulfate of potash, calcium carbonate, and fish meal—Stash Base delivers a broad spectrum of macro and micronutrients, plus biology-friendly carbon sources.)

3 grams Stash Blend

ec: 1.1 ph 5.75

After the first 24 hour soak, I fully drained it and resoaked the two bins in another batch of 10 gallons of RO mix. I adjusted the recipe.

My second buffer nutrients included:

60 ml Ventana Plant Science Support

5 ml Ventana Plant Science Expand

2 grams Stash Base

2 grams Stash Blend

5 ml Ventana Plant Science Grow

I waited another 24 hours, and then I fully drained the coco and worked to dry it out much more than last grow.

As I mentioned above, I let it drain for more than 48 hours in the tub, stirring a bit here and there. I knew it was necessary because there was a bunch of water let loose once I stirred. That made me thing i need to punch more holes into my bin, or maybe I need to put a huge slice of garden fabric at the base of the bin so that the coco does not clog the holes. I’ll likely try both on my 4 x 4 run which is coming soon!

Once the coco felt good to go, and my measurement for that was that I could grab and handful…squeeze it, and only 1 or two drops would come out… my medium was ready!

Germination:

I’ve been using Organiplugs for all my germination for my last 20+ seeds, and I am not going back to any previous system. All you do is: insert the seed, place into a germination cube holder, place in a ziplock back, wrap it up in a towel, place it in a tent, and wait for her to sprout!

I don’t have to worry about anything really, and it almost protects the seed from any real concerns from the seedling/sprouting process.

Once she sprouted (either I see a taproot, or the sprout actually pops out of the hole, or both!), I placed her about ¾ of the way down into the coco.

In the coco hole, I added some Xtreme Mykos to encourage root development, one of my favorite reasons to use organiplugs!

I didn’t need to “water her in’ to the coco, as the coco was still moist from the buffering process. I was actually worried it was a bit too moist, but I went with it anyway. It was, at least, much less moist than my previous grow, and from the way the gals have settled in, I actually think we were in the perfect zone. I squeezed a handful and barely a drop wrang out, so that’s my goal moisture level moving forward!

Zkittlez #2 Day 1

Together Zkittlez #2 (right) and Zkittlez #1 (left)

First week has gone great, my treatment of the coco has resulted in, what I feel like, is a great growing environment.

I don’t see any signs of poor root growth or hesitation, so drying out the coco a bit and not packing it down into the pot was a great move and general growers development from my last run.

I watered a few times throughout this first week, with my strategy being to water 50 ml at the organiplug planting site, and an increasingly larger volume in a dug out circle to encourage root development outward from the plug (see pictures). I am hand watering until around day 21, and then I will turn on my Autopots. I might turn my airdomes on around day 14 on very low to see if that makes any differences and as an additional experiment, but we will see.

My water recipe is for hand-watering is

1 Gallon RO water

4 ml Ventana Plant Science Support

.75 g Stash Base

12 drops Mammoth P Microbes

I watered:

Day 4: 50 on plug, 150 in ring

Day 6: 50 no plug, 200 in ring

Day 10: 400 in ring

Light output:

20 DLI

220 PPFD

Week 2 (Day 7 to 14)

Airdomes are ON… and MUCH earlier (Day 15) than my previous 2 grow, and from what I read, much earlier than conventionally recommended for most grows. This was a part of the experiment for this grow, as I wanted to see what it would be like to really provide a light, aerated coco (non-compressed at potting) while still moist, and let Mykos and Mammoth P do it’s work early.

I went with a very low initial setting with my air pump, as my goal is merely to increase airflow within the root system, and since I don’t have my Autopot system rocking yet, I am sticking to slow and steady initially with this experiment. So far, so good!

Speaking of Autopots, I have prepared the system, but I am looking for a day 20 or 21 operation date. For now, I have handwatered two doses for this week.

My recipe was a 1 Gallon batch:

1 Gallon RO Water

4 ml Ventana Plant Science Support

1 ml Ventana Plant Science Expand

2.5 g Ventana Plant Science Stash Base - I weighed this on my scale and thoroughly mixed it into my 1 gallon

12 drops Mammoth P Active Microbes

Day 13: 600 ml water in largest possible ring

Day 15: 800 ml water in largest possible ring

Lights:

PPFD 320

Week 3 (Day 15 to 21)

Autopots on!!

Day 21 is the earliest that I have turned on my autopots since I converted to a full autopot system, and every aspect of my preparation has steered me towards developing a root systems that grew to build an environment that could tolerate an early activation of both airdome and autopot early activation. I am happy to say I think we succeeded here!

I gave her two waters this week in preparation. One on day 16 (600 ml) and one on day 18 (800 ml). Each water was delivered at the very outside of the pots to encourage max root exploration of the pots.

I also slowly increased the strength of my airdome pump heading into day 21 to give them some extra oxygen, they responded well to that and showed some perky growth.

The morning of day 21, I mixed 10 gallons of RO water with the following recipe:

10 Gallons Water

50 ml Ventana Plant Science Support

26 ml Ventana Plant Science Grow

15 ml Ventana Plant Science Expand

7.5 ml Ventana Plant Science Structure

11 g Ventana Plant Science Stash Base

5 ml Mammoth P Active Microbial

ec 1.05

ph 5.7

I loaded up my reservoir, plugged in my air pump and water stone to keep her aerated, and opened up my aquavalves.

I also adjusted my Ionboard S44 to level 9, giving out about 350 PPFD, but I will be looking to max that out to level 10 by day 24. They are almost ready to push to the max!

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Feeling good today on day 29, first day of week 4!

The two gals are slightly droopy, no doubt due two two days of PH creep before I was able to adjust back down to the 5.7 range. It crept up to 6.7 before I was able to check and adjust.

I’ll be sure to pay particular attention to that over the next week to ensure proper nutrient uptake! I saw some slight tip discoloration as well, same attribution I think.

Zkittles Auto #2 Day 29

Zkittles Auto #1 Day 29

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Looking good Grow Bro, enjoy those auto pots. I’ve been using them a little over 5 years with great results :love_you_gesture:

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Thank you! It’s my 4th run thus far and I’ve been working to improve each run. My last run was great, including a 7 oz yield from a Critical Mass CBD Auto from ILGM:

as well as some other beautiies, all in the 100 to 110 g yield:

Lemon Cherry Cookies Auto by Fastbuds:

Strawberry Banana Auto by Fastbuds:

Hyperion F1 by RQS:

I hope to improve even more with this grow, and Zkittlez is not letting me down thus far!

Just need to bounce back from that PH spike! haha

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:fire::fire::fire: Very nice Grow Bro, I’ll tag you on my journal and give me a shout if you run into to any issues or just want to post and shoot the :poop: :love_you_gesture:

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Day 30! Start of week 5 and we are still recovering a bit from the 2 day PH spike that I believe is causing the general droopiness and nutrient imbalance. Since that spike, I have focused on keeping the PH between 5.6 and 5.8 on a daily basis, but I also dropped my PPFD back down to 380 just to reduce the overall stress a tiny bit, only for around 48 hours.

Zkittles #2 Day 30:

Zkittlez #2 Day 30: Slight twist and burnt tips, maybe too high on ec ( 1.15)

Zkittles #1 Day 30:

I do see some perking up on the new growth, so I think these tiny adjustments have helped the gals heading into pre-flower, as I am starting to see my first little pistils develop!

My 12 gallon reservoir is starting to empty, so I’ll be filling up my reservoir and shifting to a pre-flower blend over the next few days.

These are some best bushes, with fan leaves bigger than my hand. Happy first month, Zkittlez!

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We definitely hit some PH issues heading into Day 34, cresting into the start of week 5 and hitting pre-flower.

My droop issues were still existing and I decided to get a bit more aggressive with a fix, mainly in pulling the gals out of their autopot reservoirs, dumping the remaining mix, and starting fresh and clean with a lower EC (move from 1.1 closer to .75 for recovery) and a lower starting PH (5.5) so they are forced to reset.

Side by Side - Day 34 - Hopefully Drop will Recover

Zkittlez # 1

Zkittlez # 1 Close-Up

Zkittlez # 2

Zkittlez # 2

As a bit of a checkpoint, I wanted to measure the nutrient solution in the autopots before disposal, and even though I had been adjusting my PH in the reservoir daily, it came in super hot at 6.8! There is the source of my problems 100%!

With my new solution, I hope to have a quick response in the form of perky plants and better nutrient uptake, which should in turn allow for some better drinking and quicker reservoir turnover. I may also move to smaller reservoir batches, perhaps 6 to 8 gallons as opposed to 12 gallons, so I can freshen them up a bit more often.

For this recovery/Pre-flower batch, I went with the following recipe:

10 Gallons RO Water
Ventana Plant Science Support 35 ml
Ventana Plant Science Grow 15 ml
Ventana Plant Science Expand 11 ml
Ventana Plant Science Structure 6 ml
Ventana Plant Science Stash Base 8 g
Mammoth P Active Microbes 10 ml

ec .75
ph 5.45 (set lower to account for high PH imbalance and potential issues)

Let’s check in in 48 hours and see if my gals recover! If so, I hope we have some good stability ahead. And No Hermies!

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Great looking plants ..
Keep up the great work Grobro..

Happy Growing

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Thank you so much! Getting that PH recovery going has been fun. Still chasing that illusive “perfect” run, though I know it will never exist haha

Recovery is going well! The move to a bit lower of of EC, a bit lower in PPFD (380 as opposed to 400) and and nice clean of those trays where the spike hit… I think we are in a solid space here!

Zkittlez #2 - Recovering well, discolored tips but leaf structures are solid


Zkittlez #1 - Most perky in recovery, most limited in damage


Heading into the next few days, I will look to shift into a pre-flower recipe for my reservoir and maybe bump the ec back up closer to the .9 range, adding some PK into the folks to support those beautiful flowers starting to pop!

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Big past few days!

I’ve been really focused on a deep question for this run… why is my PH all over the place, hard to control, and why is it this particular run that is causing me a bit more difficulty as opposed to my previous more easily to manage runs.

The answer: Reservoir Health and Management!

Last run was all about tray and hose health, ensuring that from now on I clean out old liquid, focus on hose rinsing every 2 weeks, and really keep those trays as clean as possible without getting crazy obsessed. Rinse and wipe is motto for this run and thus far it’s been great.

However, my RESERVOIR has been a point of frustration for this one, and I believe this is due to the new, yet incredibly important addition of Mammoth P Active Microbes, a living entity, to my reservoir. It plays with PH, forcing it to rise a bit more quickly than my previous runs, but that microbial health is so important and I love it in there.

Thus, this weekend, I decided to make a strategic change!

On day 38, I officially moved to 5-gallon reservoir fills as opposed to 10 gallon reservoir fills! The smaller size fills, especially for only 3 plants, allows me to control PH more efficiently, refresh the liquid with fresh nutrients and microbes more often, and meet the needs of the plant in terms of where they are day to day more often.

Smaller is simply easier to manage! And thus far, they plants have stabilized and are thriving!

Here we are on day 41, and my Zkittlez #1 is back to thriving:



Zkittlez #2 was, as noted earlier, hit a bit harder. She is showing great signs of recovery and I will now enter the difficult period of not touching her at all haha…



Since I am not treating the reservoirs a bit more like living entities, my 5 gallon reservoirs will have 15-minute bubble sessions with their air pumps ever 2 hours on low power. There is no light entering the reservoirs to reduce any stimulation, and here is my recipe heading into flower:

5.5 Gallons RO Water
18 ml Ventana Plant Science Support
7 ml Ventana Plant Science Grow
6 ml Ventana Plant Science Expand
3 ml Ventana Plant Science Structure
4 g Ventana (2 tsp) Ventana Plant Science Stash Base
2 ml Mammoth P Active Microbes

This mix is now 4 days old, and smells a bit like pond water… which is my signal to switch!

I’ll be back tomorrow with a new reservoir and update!

I am not 100% sure if this is how I want to work moving forward, or if I want to investigate an occasional top water Mammoth P work environment, but for now, I want to max out these gals!

Any advice for those who work with microbes and reservoirs?

From what I have sen, we have recovered!!

The bio-fed reservoir led to a solid recovery and both color and vigor has returned to both plants! We are on Day 43, and flowers are starting to kick in and stack up:

Zkittlez #1:

Zkittlez #2:

I swung back in my decision process, and decided to make my reservoirs the beacon of stability. They will house my Ventana Plant Science Nutrients (Support, Grow, Expand, Structure, Flower, and FlaVUH), and I will do periodic root drenches/additions of Stash Trio and Mammoth P.

That way, my main system is stable and I can control inputing biological signals whenever I need!

We are around halfway, and I think fully recovered!

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