Hey I’m attempting to use Gaia Green(GG) for the first time. I’ve been having an ongoing problem with what I thought was a nitrogen def…maybe I’m wrong and it’s something else. I kind of also thought it might be a mag def. The plants have been in flower for about a month(switched to 12-12 on Dec. 27th).
The last top dress was full 2-8-4, glacial rockdust, (whatever the recommended amount is on the back of the can) and worm castings (3 1/2ish cups for a 5 gallon pot) <—I don’t know if this is the correct amount I’m supposed to use, was tough to find a definitive answer anywhere… Hopefully someone can teach me? The top dress before that was the same but was half 4-4-4 and half 2-8-4.
Grow specs:
4x4 tent
5 gal fabric pots
wedding cake
roots org soil
se7000 light
74-78 temp during day/65-70 temp during night
45-50% RH
6.5-6.8 ph every water(run off matches this)
Run off PPM is around 1800
Top-dress every 3 weeks with recommended amount on back of can, just water after that
I thought that maybe the light was to bright. It was at 100%, I turned it to 80% and raised it a few inches. It’s around 13-14 inches away now. It was very close to the plants before, around 6-7. I figured that maybe the light was causing the plant to uptake more nutrients than what was available…Read this was possible in another post, figured it was worth a shot. This didn’t work. I checked the run off PPM and got around 1800 so I didn’t think it was a LACK of nutrients in the soil so I’ve not added anything…I’m curious if maybe underwatering could be the culprit? I have not done the best watering, never detrimental or anything but soil is def dry more often this grow then not, have been busy. Plants looked happy though most of the time, but I wonder if maybe more water would allow the plant to uptake the nutrients in the soil especially with dry amendments. This seems obvious enough to me, but confirm/deny would be nice.
If it looks like there’s a different problem, your input is appreciated! Here are the pics, the dead leaves have been cut off but wanted to take a picture before so everyone can see what’s happening.
So could be a timing problem? I knew that it takes a few weeks to become available, am I wrong to assume the previous feedings should not be gone yet? Maybe I should be feeding them a little more than what is on the back of the can, I saw on Shaded’s feed schedule he uses 3Tbsp per gallon and a lot of people seem to have success
Could be,yes.
I have one outside and it is just starting to flower ,I added amendments for flower a month ago.
I will be adding more soon…
I tagged some peoples for you .
They will be able to help , I am sure.
This is my outdoor girl, Cherry Dragon.
These pots are way to small for the size plants that are in them and the plants are having a hard time keeping up with organics its a difficult process to read run off as it really dosnt accurately give a reading of whats available in the pot for organics that is atleast how often are you watering and are you keeping the soil moist at all times?
That seems fair enough! Do you generally need a bigger pot for organics then you would with synthetic? How big do you think these plants would need? I never would’ve though of that since this is as big as I’ve always gone but with synthetic.
No, I have unfortunately not kept the soil moist at all times. I generally water every 2-3 days which I’m starting to figure out might be a little different with dry amendments
For organic soil i wouldn’t recommend anything less than a 10 gallon pot but bigger is always better think of organic soil as a battery the bigger the battery the more juice it has behind it with organics and organic amendments its important to keep the soil moist at all times so that those amendments can properly break down and become available for the plant to uptake when the soil becomes dry the microbiology in the soil goes dormant and also dies off some you can add more life by brewing teas with good organic compost or leaf mulch
I’m running Dr earth dry amendments for the first time. I’m thinking organic nutes ppms are different than synthetic?? I had a runoff of 1800ppm on my gfog and it was still yellowing from the bottom up. Started using Kellogg’s organic fish and kelp at 2 tsp per gallon and the yellowing stopped in its tracks.
Plants are to late into flower for a transplant to really do a whole lot if anything besides possibly hurt it more from transplant shock id recommend keeping the soil moist and use compost teas to help with available nutrients
The old growth and large lower fan leaves are dying off and won’t come back. The green tops and flowers is where you will notice if your amendments take hold. Yellowing old growth and lower leaves a sign of a mobile nutrient deficiency. NKP are all mobile with potassium being the most mobile. As your flowers and upper growth develop the lower older leaves get robbed of these and die off.
Most of my plants loose older leaves mid to late into flower , as long as my tops are producing I just let it ride.
Nah just scratch it in. Give it some time to work. As mentioned bigger pot is better with living soil. They are far in. You are living soil. Ride it out. I typically only need mag in my grows. If using calmag a foliar works best for our organics. A runoff test for us is worthless. Also never flush that soil and reuse it. Gets better every time.
Every time i top dress i add a new layer of compost or soil/compost mix ontop of the amendments to help 1-add biology to the pot and 2- It helps trap in moisture to make sure those amendments are staying moist
Here are the pics, the dead leaves have been cut off but wanted to take a picture before so everyone can see what’s happening.
