Two plants; two potential issues

I have two plants and they are experiencing different problems.
This is my 2nd ever grow, so I’m still new to growing.
Both plants have the exact same setup/feeding/etc. [See below]

  • Strain: Strawberry Cough
  • Medium: Soil (Fox Farm Ocean Forest)
  • Container: Air pots (~7gal equivalent?? Blue bottom)
  • Using the Fox Farm feeding schedule, they have finished week 3 of veg
  • pH (in): averages 6.7
  • pH (out): when actually caught, averages 6.4
  • Light: MarsHydro TSW 2000 (using their recommendations on distance)

Plant 1
This was a couple days ago…



Then, today I woke up to this:


Plant 2

The fan leaves look eaten, but i see no evidence of pests in the tent.

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[The patch on the leave in this picture was dried nutrients…it washed off!]

Neither plant is experiencing the symptoms the other plant is dealing with.

What can I do to help them out??

Thank you!

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Here’s my grow journal for more information.

Info about the journal:

  • For this grow, I got the TSW2000…and it came with a digital thermometer! Thats why the change in temperature recording;
  • After following the MarsHydro recommendations for lights…i stopped recording ppfd. I dont think I was taking acurate measurements anyway

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The first couple of photos of Plant 1 looks like phosphorus and/or calcium deficiency. I use FF Trio and have always needed to add Cal/Mag along with a tiny amount of Epsom salts about every 3rd feeding… that being said, the last few photos (more current) would make me want to really get a powerful scope and look for mites of some kind (broad or russet)… they are so tiny, you need a very powerful scope.

Plant 2, the wrinkled leaves look like over-watering but the damage, again could be bugs or damage from handling?

I would look for bugs first. Then I would do a soil slurry test to check ph of the soil. Also, following any kind of flush, along with some nutrients, make sure to add some microbes… I use Recharge or Mykos… a lot of people love Great White.

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Agree on all said by @Caligurl and would add they look to be nitrogen rich. The FFoF medium comes amended and typically will last around 5-6 weeks with PHd water only. The run off or slurry test will let you know the PH and TDS of your medium :love_you_gesture:

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Sorry for the delay in replying…

I did a slurry test and got a scope (it’s not the best, but hopefully it will work)
I also nicknamed the plants, to make it easier to tell them apart. (Based on their obvious issues)
I measured the slurry twice to make sure the results were similar.


Here is an updated look at my grow journal

Plant 1 aka Brownie
The soil slurry test resulted in a pH of: 5.9, 6.0



The fork was being used as support

Here are some scope pictures:




Plant 2 aka Nibbles
The soil slurry test resulted in a pH of: 6.8, 6.7

Scope pictures:




What confuses me is that they are both EXACTLY the same. And are treated/feed/lit the EXACT same way! Their soil was from the same bag, the nutrients are mixed in the same water and distributed the same. Yet, I’m getting two completely different plants!!!

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That happens… just different genetics. The scope pics are hard to tell… The only thing I can recommend would be to flush the plants with plain ph water, then follow that with a nutrient solution of only 1/4 strength.

Without knowing how much you’re feeding her, I would almost say it looks like nutrient burn. Plant 1 def. needs soil ph to come up.

It also looks like a little Calcium deficiency. You can add Calcium or Cal/Mag to the mix after you flush.

It wouldn’t hurt to spray them down with Captn Jacks Dead bug (go by instructions but slightly less concentrate so not to hurt the damaged leaves anymore. They aren’t helping you at this point. The newer growth looks ok… sorry, just guessing here.

Are you feeding them according to theFF schedule? I use FF Trio and have never followed the schedule. I measure TDS of runoff and when it drops below 800 is when I start feeding. I also never used as much as they say to use unless I see a deficiency starting.

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Yeah, the scope I got is apparently good for seeing trichomes…and thats about it, i guess. :man_shrugging:

I have been using the FF Soil Feeding Schedule that is on their website. The only nutrient i am not using, that is on there, is Rhize Up. The only other difference is that I added an extra cup to the measuring line on my mixing container. So, instead of mixing nutrients to a gallon of water…its nutrients to a gallon + 1 cup of water. Its a tiny bit diluted.

They are scheduled to switch to flowering next week.
Should I flush them this weekend with the nutrient flush [FF’s Sledgehammer], give them a week of water, then go to flower (and the nutrients)??

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That’s what I’d do…
Make sure to follow with 1/4 nutrient mix then on the next water don’t feed but add Cal/Mag, a tiny amount of Epsom salt and any kind of mycos… like Recharge, Mykos or Great White… it will help the roots heal… then just watch the new growth. Take off only the leaves that are completely gone…even if they are half bad, they are still performing some photosynthesis…

Also on the first plant that the soil ph was low, make sure water in is around 6.8 and see if that helps bring it back up…

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Since photos I assume I personally would change my flip date till back healthy. Auto you camt but photo can get back in spec and then flip. In the long run going into flower healthy will pay off with extra veg/recover time. Just me.

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Great advice from @Caligurl

:point_up_2: solid advice

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The pH on Plant 1 (“Brownie”) was given water/nutrient mix at a pH of ~6.8 for the first few weeks of its life.

Try to keep it up there?

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I try to keep my ph in at 6.4 - 6.6 and I increase or decrease based on the output. So if input has been 6.8 but runoff its good, leave it at that. You might find out that after a flush, you’ll need to drop input ph down but you’ll find out as you do it :slight_smile: